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The main problem it's right that one:

"Earn income": There are classes that have high INT (Alchemist/Wizard) and ones that have high CHA (Bard/Sorceror)
There are NOT any way for a WIS user to earn income, forcing to use the secondary attributes.

Even the "Bargain Hunter" feat doesn't change anything: You still use CHA.

Well, that was my "Rules question". Maybe in the future, in the next books, this is adressed. For the moment...

Greetings

First thing first, I must beg all you for your for pardon, for any grammar or ortographic error. You see, english is not my first language.

I wanted to ask about Earn Income downtime activity. You can only use Perform, Craft or Lore. Maybe Diplomacy if you have a particular feat.
That makes that only characters with high INT or CHA can get a job.

In another forum we were discusing about some other professions would benefit from diferent abilities (A construction worker would need more STR than INT, a farmer would need CON, Clergy and Priests should have to use Wisdom/Religion. And the ur-example is Lore(Gladiator which uses INT to earn income, but it would be closer to STR to winning duels and CHA to make it while looking cool)

Is there any rule, or any plan for something to allow people to use diferent abilities or skills to earn money? In the books there is a "Maybe", a "At GM's discrection", but I play mostly organized play, and there isn't any room for improvisation.

Thanks in advance.

As an aside, this should probably be in the Rules subforum.

I agree.

Is there any way to move this thread to the Rules Subforum?

PS: Main issue with the topic is with organized play. There isn't many room to interpretation there!

I agree that for Gladiatorial Lore, marketing oneself would be important, but on the other hand, the public paid 5 silvers to see you, so they want to see a good show! Not a skinny kid who cannot raise his sword nor talk to the public.

In fact, I would understand all the parts of the "Gladiatorial business" you described -the ones that would use INT- as part of an an AGENT job. But the classes and backgrounds that give you Gladiatorial Lore are martial-oriented, not social-orientd.

On the other hand, the main topic still is "You can only win money with INT or CHA"

So... Is there any way for a character to use other abilities?

(Ang again, sorry for my flawled english grammar and vocabulary. If When you find any error, please feel free to point it)

Greetings.

First thing first, I must ask you for your pardon should I make some errors in my writting: I'm not a native english speaker.

Then, going for the main point I'm asking here: I'm still learning the ropes with PF 2e and I find it enjoyable and a good game overall. Then we get into the "Earn Income" part of the adventures. Simplifying to the bare bones: it's just a roll of INT+Lore, CHA+Perform or INT+Craft to earn some money and make a living.

But doesn't there are many other kind of Lores that would benefit from another abilities, apart from just INT or CHA? I think that Crafting (Pottery) would benefict more from a high DEX than from INT, and earning income with Gladiatorial Lore wouldn't be about your INT, but your STR or your CHA: People don't go to the games to see you quoting philosofical passages nor gladiatorial principles: They want to see strength feats, cool moves and hear the sword clashing each other.
And Lore (Building) wouldn't be that much about your INT unless you're the architect. The rest of the team would be carrying bricks, poles and concrete, a STR/CON intensive activity.

So... do you think that you can use your Lore to earn income without the use of INT or CHA?