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Kryzbyn wrote:

Alchemist: Mad MAx from Pirincess BRide.

I think it's Miracle Max. Mad max was a completely different movie :)

-TM


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As posted by others:
1. Arab governments using the US as a Scapegoat
2. Poverty
3. Fundamentalism
4. The US's historical backing of dictators
5. The US's toppling of democratically elected governments
6. Ongoing warfare
7. The US's continues meddling (regardless of the intentions) in the middle-east.

Did I miss anything?

I think that all of these factors has created an atmosphere of resentment. The Youtube video is simply being used as a rallying cry. It's simply the latest slight (either real or imagined) that many Arabs have had to put up with in their life times. And so a small number of Arabs (urged on by fundamentalist factions) are rioting.

If this was a pan-arab/pan-muslim movement as Aretas' orginal post suggested "millions if not hundreds of millions of people" then there would be more American deaths, more embassies destroyed and more people on the streets. Hell if "millions or hundreds of millions of people" wanted to do anything then it would simply be done.

This unfortunately is the disenfranchised lashing out with deadly effect.

Is the answer violence? No. But I've lived through riots and seen mob mentality first hand. There is no rhyme or reason, only hatred and the fear that the mob might turn on you.

Just my 2-cents.
-TM


Elbe-el wrote:
Icyshadow wrote:

I heard about that in the news recently. Really brightened up my day, if you know what I mean* by that.

* = Now to explain the joke. Since I am Finnish and live in Finland, Russia getting more powerful can only be bad news for me in the long run.

You're Finnish? And you're worried about Russia? Why? The last time Russia invaded Finland, you guys were hilariously out-manned and even more hilariously out-gunned...and you proceeded to hand the Russians a hilarious ass-beating.

As long as your nation can produce guys like Simo Hayha (am I spelling that right?), aka, "The White Death", I wouldn't worry too much about Russia.

I'm pretty sure the Russian military finds that it suddenly has no feeling in its buttocks at the very thought of tangling with you guys again...if I had been so thoroughly humiliated, I would, too.

Simo Hayha is perhaps one of the most incredible stories I have ever come across. I'm honestly surprised no one has made a movie about him.


The 8th Dwarf wrote:
T_Malthus wrote:

Hi.

This is my first post here on the boards and I probably should have picked a less volatile thread but Aretas can you clarify what exactly is your opinion on the matter.
Distilling your original post I see a lot of rhetoric but little substance.

The first sentence seems to imply that the violence exist because "millions or hundreds of millions of people" simply hate the US." Which doesn't really give much of a reason. Why do they hate?

Your second sentence seems to imply that diplomacy will not work and that the brave American diplomats that died were some how idiots for trying to bring peace to people "who only understand power". Now I know this is not your stance on the issue as it was you that started the Thread on this page honoring their sacrifice.

Please clarify. I think that they "rhetoric" that you choose to post is getting in the way of people understand what exactly you mean.

-TM

TM you are asking Trolls not to Troll... Aretas gets a little buzz of joy when people get upset at what he posts...

He probably believes what he posts, which is sad and shows a lack of critical thinking, empathy, historical and cultural awareness and compassion.

I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt. :)


I'd have to go with a sword an board fighter. Cause shield are awesome when in a pinch just ask Perseus.


Hi.
This is my first post here on the boards and I probably should have picked a less volatile thread but Aretas can you clarify what exactly is your opinion on the matter.
Distilling your original post I see a lot of rhetoric but little substance.

The first sentence seems to imply that the violence exist because "millions or hundreds of millions of people" simply hate the US." Which doesn't really give much of a reason. Why do they hate?

Your second sentence seems to imply that diplomacy will not work and that the brave American diplomats that died were some how idiots for trying to bring peace to people "who only understand power". Now I know this is not your stance on the issue as it was you that started the Thread on this page honoring their sacrifice.

Please clarify. I think that they "rhetoric" that you choose to post is getting in the way of people understand what exactly you mean.

-TM