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I think I will just leave then, there are 4 of us who feel the same, he's a good friend to all of us, but he really annoys us with his gaming...

We get attacked by X monster (doesn't matter), he acts the high and mighty, flings a spell or two (usually an enchantment) taking out the odd monster, while the rest of us do our thing (Cleric buffs up and smashes stuff, druid wild shapes and mauls something and the rogue goes for the SA)

As soon as he takes the slightest hit, he scurries to the cleric for healing, even in the middle of a fight he winges and pouts like a stubborn kid if the cleric doesn't drop everything MID COMBAT and poke him with a heal...

Nothing really out of the ordinary there, a squishy mage doesn't want to die, but 2 HP damage, at level 10 has him scurrying.

Social situation goes wrong (usually due to him sticking his foot in it with his own ego) and he runs away, fleeces a body or something and finds somewhere to hide.

I know CHA characters are supposed to come to the fore everytime something needs negotiating, but the way he does it makes us feel like smashing our head agains the board.

Away from the board his usual tack is to constantly big up his character, which is great, nothing beats enthusiastic characters (We all love to big ourselves up) but the way he does it for exclusion to everyone, of course the cleric never hit the Ogre with that debuff spell which let him narrowly cast charm monster, and the fighter never dropped that minotaur which saved his life, or anything like that...

I always play different characters, my last character was a rogue, the one before was a druid. We've had a few other CHA based characters before, but something always ends up going wrong.

We've called him out before, questioned his character and motives and why no one in the world suddenly opposes his new kingdom popping up, but the DM just waives it off.

A. Because he won't leave, the DM won't let anyone try, and we're fairly polite and friends. He's a nice guy, but his gaming drives everyone (apart from the DM and another couple of people, who seem blind to it all) completely mad.

B. Too late, he's made the character, the DM said yes, I suggested a Bard or Sorcerer and all I got was beratement, the closest I could possibly get is a Paladin.

Nothing wrong with him playing a CHA based character, it's how he plays them, all as egotistical, selfish and morally ambiguous as the last.

We all hate being treated like the third wheel to his own glorious ego trip, there when he needs the protection, but happy to take the power at the slightest chance.

Charisma is one thing, being a dense selfish idiot is another.

A character with lots of STR isn't necessarily going to brow beat the party into following his orders, a character with high CHA shouln't have to be a complete selfish idiot.

He won't stop...

This game falls neatly into his happy zone. He always wants to play the controlling player, screw saving the world or finding some lost artifact, he isn't happy unless he ends up wielding alot of Power and ruling a country or kingdom...

We can't remove him from the game, we can't make him change, and if I play the kind of character I want to play (I want to try a CHA based caster) people will say I'll be redundant and useless...

EDIT: I do like the idea of calling him out

Starting the Kingmaker game soon, and there is a character in our group who really grates some of us the wrong way, CHA based characters always trying to take the lead, the glory and everything else.

He is now playing a Wizard (Enchanter, 17 INT, 16 CHA, 9 STR, 12 CON, 10 DEX, 12 WIS

I'm not usually the type to do this, but we need a character to undermine this one, preferbaly without him really realising and causing bad blood...

Any suggestions?