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Hero point doesn't do much good when you're dead lol.

If it happened at the end of the attackers turn it wouldn't be much different than taking normal damage

And yes that was my exact point to the DM I was like this makes absolutely 0 sense what's the point of this stupid Orc Ferocity thing if it works this way lol.

Yeah bleed damage happens at the end of the bleeding character's turn and they get to roll to remove the effect.

If it happened at the end of the attackers turn it wouldn't be much different than taking normal damage

Do you still take the damage once if you successfully roll to remove it? Or only if you fail?

It's my understanding that persistent damage occurs at the end of the effected parties turn, thereby, they would drop after having a turn to deal with the persistent damage or the low health, which seems perfectly fair

They didn't have a turn to deal with it though. An enemy combatant hit them with an attack that would have downed them and also added persistent bleed damage. They used their reaction on Orc Ferocity to not go unconscious from the attack, but then the persistent bleed damage was applied at the end of the attackers turn and knocked our Orc unconscious. So are you saying he shouldn't have taken the damage at the end of the attackers turn from the persistent bleed, but at the end of HIS next turn instead?

Our DM ruled it as they stayed up from the initial damage of the attack but the persistent bleed made them unconscious at the end of the turn. I was wondering if this is the case of it being truly RAW and is 100% the correct call, or maybe it is RAW but it doesn't really follow the spirit of the rule(our DM tends to be very inflexible with the way rules are written and doesn't take into account the spirit of a rule almost ever), or just an incorrect ruling? I am not nearly as familiar with pf2e as I am with dnd 5e so I am not exactly sure how this would work exactly.

Just seems kind of silly to have a feat that takes a reaction and whose ONLY use it to allow you to survive 1 attack that would normally down you, so if that attack downs you anyways, what's the point? Its totally fair if it was a 2nd attack from the same creature or an attack from another creature that ended up downing him, it just feels wrong to me to have the actual triggering attack for Orc Ferocity to be the one downing him.

Any thoughts by those more experienced than I? Thanks!