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@ Fraust: While I agree that a high damage weapon would be useful for any class, I think that most characters just aren't that powerful at first level and have to suffer through a period of suckiness until they get around fourth level, and then they start kicking ass. My main point was that I wanted to use the club for flurry of blows, since my character practices Kenpo and the club is one of the weapons taught in that style. It's more for flavor than anything.

@Rom001: So cool that you teach FMA. That's another real cool art. There are a few modern kenpoists who say that there is a little FMA in kenpo, and I know that one of the founders of Kajukenbo learned FMA when he was a young man.

@3.5 Loyalist: Yes, both of those weapons do MUCH more damage than the club, but neither is a weapon that the monk is proficient in without having to take a feat, at least not that I know of. There are other weapons that the monk is proficient, but these weapons can not be used for the class feature "flurry of blows". And the issue that I had was using the club for the flurry of blows. Thanks for the input, though. I appreciate it.

@Dabbler: I tried to access your redeisign but I was unable load it. I really wanted to read it.

@Dabbler. Cool. That must have been an interesting art to practice.

@Fraust. I agree completely. Using my current character as an example, you can't use Kenpo the way Kenpo was designed to to be utilized in real life. Oh, well. Dabbler is correct; heroic systems with superhuman feats really can't be...realistic.

Thanks, Dabbler. The hanbo demensions were a general measurement, and like most martial arts weapons are tailored to the user. What art do you practice?

I think that your solution is quite pragmatic and I will give it a shot. If he still puts the kybosh on using clubs for FoB, then I will just have to live with it.

Thanks for that, Skerek. I thought of that the tonfa might be an option. I'll present the idea to my GM the next time we get together.

Actually, I looked up the deminsions of the various "stick" weapons I mentioned and I shoudl add some data simply for clarification

Bo staff: 1.8m (5.9 ft.)

Jo staff: 1.212m (47.7"/approx. 4')

Han-bo: 60.6cm (approx. 24")

The knenpo club as used in form competition is tailored to the martial artists, as is roughly equivilant to length from the martial artist's elbow to the tip of his or her middle finger; about a "cubit". This is on average about 21".

Hello, all.

After playing tabletop RPGs for many years I have finally rolled up my first monk and began playing him last Friday. I have chosen Kenpo as my "fighting style" just because I like the martial art and I haven't seen or heard of anyone using that as a template for game play.

Anyhow, I wanted to be able to use clubs as an option for flurry of blows (FOB) because Kenpo clubs are used as weapons in some black belt forms, namely Long Form 7. (I believe this form is called Sword of Destruction, but I could be wrong.) The GM said that I could not use them for this purpose because clubs are not listed as an optional weapon for FOB. I acquiesced, not looking to be a jerk, but I still wonder why the jo stick, a common weapon dating back to AD&D and being present up to 3.0 Oriental Adventures, hasn't been included in any Pathfinder publication that I can find. It's simply a long thin club, usually 21" in length and approximately 1" in diamter. What if you wanted to create an esrima pratitioner (AKA escrimador)as a monk? Shouldn't that character be able to use ironwood clubs of various lengths for flurry of blows, as well a machete or a dagger?

Also, just as an afterthought, why do you suppose that there is an option to use a monk weapon for FOB when the unarmed damage gets so powerful at higher levels? Is it just for "flavor", or gameplay?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.