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*Khan* wrote:

In what way is dragonstyle dealing to much damage ?

At most it is your unarmed strike +2x str on your first attack and your unarmed strike +1,5x str damage on hits after the first.
I imagine that Stunning Fist and Dragons Roar is a bigger issue than the damage if your wisdom also are high and the DC equally high.
What level are you and what is your str and dm dice?

Is the problem that you outshine the other players?

We are level 5, so DMG dice is 1d8. We get enhancement bonuses on weapons making by attacks +11 to hit, 1d8+11 for first attack, 1d8+8 for consecutive attacks. STR of 18 with permanent enhancement bonus of 2.

From my discussion the problem is mostly the fact that I am just pumping out big damage numbers. We have a bard in the party who frequently buffs me or our archer and in most cases I am out damaging the dedicated archer fighter by a decent amount. Our encounter days tend to be +2 according to him, as we are a party of 6 lvl 5 PCs fighting CR 8/9 encounters.


Derklord wrote:

So, are you trying to comply with and appeace your GM, or do you want to show them the folly of their way?

The thing is, your GM is completely wrong that style feats are "too strong". Depending on what you third feat is, if you take non-style feats that boost damage like Possessed Hand, Power Attack, and Weapon Focus per my unMonk DPR calculator, you would do about the same damage as before, or even more. Note: My DPR calculator uses Jabbing Style without entering the stance for the "no style" build, as well as for the fourth feat in the Dragon Style build, so you wouldn't get those exact numbers, but the principle still stands.

If, as I presume, you don't want to show your GM that you can do just as much damage without style feats, you should look into strengthening defenses, and/or broadening out your character. Iron Will and Toughness increase will save and HP, respectively, Cunning grants an extra skill point per level, and Improved Initiative lets you go before the enemies more often, which can help you outdamage opponents without actually doing more damage. Extra Ki enlargens your ki pool, which can by very valuable depending on your ki power selection, and Additional Traits is a toolbox that...

Thanks for the recommendations. I like the idea of power attack weapon focus, but I am curious about ki powers. As of right now at lvl5 I have barkskin, but with the natural bonus progression providing an enhancement bonus to my natural AC I feel like it wouldn’t be too useful. I’m planning on taking the elemental fury ki power next level and was wondering if you had any suggestions for alternative ki powers that would justify taking extra ki?


Hello everyone, I have a small dilemma. In my current pathfinder campaign I have been playing an unchained monk built around Dragon Style and have been doing very well. I have been one of the highest damage dealers in the party, if not the highest for a few reasons. One, we rolled for stats and I rolled a good array, making me not have any negative stats. 2, we are playing with a faster form of automatic bonus progression (we are currently at level 5 and have all of the features of the level 8 automatic progression). Because of this, my DM has told me he was banning Dragon style and all Style feats because they were too strong. He has given me the opportunity to retrain my feats, but I have no idea what to take as I am a relative novice to PF1e. Any suggestions?

Here are my stats
STR: 18 (20 with automatic bonus progression)
DEX: 14
CON: 15 (put my +1 into this)
WIS: 16 (18 with automatic bonus progression)
INT: 11
CHA: 15

Race: Nagaji