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Hmm I think I understand. Also maybe I'm being unclear. Sneak attack from different class sources stack from other classes, and I know it is a bonus. The ability says specifically that it works like the monk ability of the same name. The monk ability of the same name also doesn't allow other classes but monk to use flurry of blows with full BAB (except of course full BAB classes).

Nothing is telling me that a monk using the sacred fist's flurry of blows class skill shouldn't stack & get the full BAB from the levels in monk. Also progressing the skill to more attacks a use. Unless, of course, the monk gave up the Flurry of blows for a class archetype then I would understand the monk levels would only give normal BAB for the core monk class.

I feel like they just added the part about sacred fist levels not adding full BAB to follow suit with the fact that only monks obtain full BAB with FoB. It also doesn't state anywhere that Sacred fist's fob doesn't progress the normal monks fob which could mean that the levels from both stack. Just a thought

But it also specifically says warpriest levels do not gain that extra bonus. It does not also say any other classes levels.. I am specifically asking if you were to aquire levels in monk would those levels apply full BAB to the Flurry of Blows ability gained as a sacred fist?

Okay, yet another Sacred Fist question. Seems this class just has a lot of possible issues. First off, my questions are not to create cheese builds, but just for the rules. Now I know this wouldn't be an issue if adding Unchained Monk to the mix but I want the core class idea.

Question: Do Monk levels still gain full BAB from Sacred Fist's Flurry of Blows?

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Flurry of Blows (Ex)

At 1st level, a sacred fist can make a flurry of blows attack as a full-attack action. This ability works like the monk ability of the same name, except the sacred fist's attack bonus from warpriest levels does not count as his warpriest level.

This ability replaces sacred weapon.

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Now it says that Sacred Fist levels do not get the full BAB, but it also says it works like the Monk ability, which specifically states that Monk's get full BAB from this ability.

Thoughts? Thanks in advance!

Well that's why there is a 3 level dip into monk for still mind :)

What are the rules when combining these? Sacred Fist is a non-monk class that receives monk-like unarmed damage increases. Would those increases stack with Monastic Legacy, beings Sacred Fist isn't part of the monk class? It would seem obvious but I would like others opinions. Also how would a monk robe affect the unarmed damage when added to the mix. Example being 3monk/17 sacred fist.

Thanks guys, I was just wondering because I knew the rule of returning during your next turn but I was unsure how that related Speed or Haste. Everything about throwing weapons seems to go against the grains of feasibility vs. other options.

I need help figuring out how a weapon with the speed and returning values would react being thrown during a full-attack action.

1. Would your weapon strike twice during the throw or would you lose the benefit of Speed or Haste entirely if you threw your weapon?

2. Also, if all your thrown weapons have the returning attribute and you throw multiple weapons with the Speed attribute, would you get double hits from each weapon that round?

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I guess this could also cover using Quick Draw with a handful of Speed weapons.

Speed
When making a full-attack action, the wielder of a speed weapon may make one extra attack with it. The attack uses the wielder's full base attack bonus, plus any modifiers appropriate to the situation.

By the base description it would appear that if you use multiple weapons during your attack that each individual weapon with the speed attribute would receive an extra swing.

Thanks for the replies :)