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Mouthpiece of Dominion
This item right here. We're trying to find out if this stacks with size changing effects.

"If the wearer already has a natural bite attack, its damage is increased by one step."

I think these stacks cause this isn't a pseudo size increase nor an actual size increase.


Thank you ^_^


Does this seem fair for a mythic trial.

2 half-orc Barbarians with DR/Epic that stacks up every time you hit them.
They also have most of the Deathless feats and Animal totems making them Charging Maniacs that never die.

Our main damage is me a fighter and another Barbarian.


Orfamay Quest wrote:
Master Codex wrote:


Even now, Orf is having a discussion with a person who isn't me and insulting me over it, showing me that he came in here simply wanting to insult me,

Not at all. I pointed out that it was a Dick Move -- as in, "a move only a dick would make" -- for a number of reasons that I was very careful to articulate. I had hoped you would realize that because you don't want to be a dick, you shouldn't do that.

At this point, I don't care if you want to put that shoe on and loudly proclaim that it fits. But I gave you a chance to actually look at what you were doing from the standpoint of player agency and autonomy. Your response, which I even singled out for you, was that you want to "make" his player character behave as you desire.

And only a dick would do that. Do you want to reconsider, yet?

You acknowledge that he's playing his character the way he wants to, but you don't like the way he's doing it -- in other words, in your opinion, he's having badwrongfun. And so in order to prevent him having fun the wrong way, you propose to knowingly and willingly set up campaign events to prevent him having any fun at all.

And only a dick would do that. Do you want to reconsider, yet?

And you're doing this behind his back instead of simply saying "hey, the rest of us would have more fun if you played your character differently." But no, talking to him is not an option when screwing him over is.

And only a dick would do that. Do you want to reconsider, yet?

And then, when you come to the Internet to ask whether this is a good idea, you get a lot of negative feedback and you start insulting the people who provide you with detailed feedback to your idea.

And only a dick would do that.

So, the hell with it. It's up to you. You have absolute freedom in this matter, because I respect your own autonomy. You can choose to be, or not to be, a dick.

Weren't you the one who started insulting people? That makes you the 'Dick'

Every encounter isn't made specifically for a group unless it's made that way.

I don't make an encounter to counter anyone. If a monster has this ability I use it. If that ability was the one thing your character I'snt made for. Then tough luck, help your party out and defeat that thing. You can be useful in other ways. Swing wildly and distract it. Yell insults a bout its mother. Just don't stand there and play a different game.You keep encouraging mediocrity. Your post go ona and on a bout freedom of character. I'm all about it. I'm just saying if your gonna be a literal tree, give me some reason or another. I make encounters that correspond to CR, I don't look at ability's and think "Oh this will counter him nicely." Yet you seem to think that everyone is against timmy. We like timmy, He's a nice guy, if he wants help, he'll listen to suggestions, if he doesn't he'll get bored and wonder off into the woods somewhere. We won't give up on him until he just shows that he doesn't care. In the end its the player, not the game.

This enemy may do that or this enemy might have an immunity.
Your basically saying that everyone should have there hand held and do the minimum amount of thinking possible.
Timmy can play his character as a Lump. It's no skin of my back. If he's not having fun he can tell me and we can fix it. I don't kick people out for roleplaying bad. We fix it , where I'm from. I can see that you still think that no one talks to anyone about any problem and that if someone has an opinion that differs from yours ,that there a dick, but from what I've read above, you seem to be the one who instigates it more or less.


Orfamay Quest wrote:
Stephan Nears wrote:


If you don't like it, you don't have to play with him -- but this passive-aggressive method of making sure he doesn't enjoy game night because you don't approve of his style of play is mean-spirited, underhanded, and a Dick Move.
Its not being a dick if the timmy, doesn't try to do any other roleplaying.

Certainly it is. I don't see any notes from Paizo on your profile that empower you to decide on Timmy's behalf that he's having badwrongfun.

If he's enjoying himself, then he's enjoying himself and to attempt to stop it would be a Dick Move.

So your answer is kick him out of the game. Nice to know.

Timmy just sitting being a lump of sand.You just encourage mediocrity.

So every encounter has to have another lump for timmy to fight. If timmy's not happy that obviously the fault of the GM and not Timmy's lackluster imagination. You seem to think that no one talks to there players. I've had situations where talking solves nothing. Some people just play the lump until forced to rise up and speak. I've had people thank me for having them do something other than just roll for hit and damage, but as I can see Mediocrity is fun to you.

Also you are being a child with the passive name-calling.


Orfamay Quest wrote:
Stephan Nears wrote:


So, if your character stands around and does nothing, in any setting except fighting, that's roleplaying? That's a really s&$!ty style of roleplaying if you ask me. What kind of player just waits for things to happen?

Timmy, obviously.

If you don't like it, you don't have to play with him -- but this passive-aggressive method of making sure he doesn't enjoy game night because you don't approve of his style of play is mean-spirited, underhanded, and a Dick Move.

This is, as far as I can tell, no longer about Level X characters. This is about blatant abuse of GM fiat to punish a player for daring to enjoy role-playing in an unapproved manner.

Its not being a dick if the timmy, doesn't try to do any other roleplaying. It seems that there's a lot of assumption going on that Timmy is playing his character and should be allowed to do so.This is true. If you go and play a video game while everyone is talking about plans and such in game, That must be a good manner of role-playing in your eyes.


Orfamay Quest wrote:
Master Codex wrote:
Timmy, however, just attacks and stands around.

... and that's his choice, which you're depriving him of.

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So how should this be treated in a meaningful way that would make sense.

I don't know -- but I do know that Timmy isn't sitting at your table because he wants to watch you construct a narrative that "makes sense" all by yourself.

Covent phrased it well. "You are saying is that nothing written on a player's character sheet matters and they will only pass this encounter when you decide they have done whatever dance you have planned properly." You're passing judgment on Timmy's style of role playing and refusing to allow him to have fun until he acts in the approved manner --- which, by the way, you've admitted that he will not enjoy.

So, if your character stands around and does nothing, in any setting except fighting, that's roleplaying? That's a really shitty style of roleplaying if you ask me. What kind of player just waits for things to happen?