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Thanks for the clarification. I noticed on the natural attacks table on the website it shows 1d6 for bite damage of medium creatures, does that mean the Dragon Disciples bite does that much? I just noticed that it doesn't actually state the bite's damage just that it adds 1d6 energy later on. Does the base damage change like the claws do or is it just supposed to stay the same?(not including the energy damage)


So basically for a dragon disciple with a bite and 2 claw attacks, 6 BAB (or more) doesn't really do anything as far as additional attacks?


Oooooo, nice. I really love the neat little table. Thank you.

So I was re-reading over combat and this caught my eye:
You do not receive additional natural attacks for a high base attack bonus. Instead, you receive additional attack rolls for multiple
limb and body parts capable of making the attack (as noted
by the race or ability that grants the attacks).

I have no idea what they mean by "additional attack rolls for multiple limb and body parts". I mean, I know what attacks rolls are and everything but I don't know how this works or what it involves. Help!


Wow, thank you guys for the clarification. It helped a lot.

Another question:
Under the Natural Attacks section in the Core Rulebook it says this:
Some natural attacks are denoted as secondary natural
attacks, such as tails and wings. Attacks with secondary
natural attacks are made using your base attack bonus
minus 5. These attacks deal an amount of damage
depending on their type, but you only add half your
Strength modifier on damage rolls.
I checked and the only "denoted" place where it says 'this is a secondary natural attack' is under the Horse animal companion for a Hooves attack. So does this mean that the wings and tail attack you get in dragon form are secondary attacks as well, or are they not because they are not denoted as such?


Hello everyone,

I recently started playing Pathfinder with a bunch of my buddies and I must say, it is pretty awesome and lots of fun. I am fairly well read as far as the Core Rulebook goes but there are some specific things I'm still not sure of so I'd like to see what the Pathfinder community here on paizo.com have to say in answer to my questions.

I only have one for now but I can tell I'll have more in the future.

Q: For a Draconic Sorcerer, does the Form of the Dragon I/II/II abilities replace or add to the powers he/she already has available from their bloodline? In other words, would a Draconic Sorcerer in Dragon form be able to use two different breath weapons and four claw attacks, or does the breath weapon and claws gained from Dragon form just replace them?

Thank you in advance for any information that would help answer this question.