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Right now it is sounding like
A) stay in studded leather (+3AC, 5Dex, -1P, 20 lbs),
B) swap for the Mithral Shirt (1100g, +4AC, 4Dex, 0P, 10lbs) now,
C) wait & get a Ring+1 after the next mission.
D) Ioun Stone shield spell?

The Ring would improve Touch AC where the armor does not.
I was surprised that even natural armor does not improve Touch AC.

Need to investigate the ioun stones -- This might better than the ring.

I'd also go for the mythral shirt.

or agile mythral breastplate

The breastplate, agile or not, is medium armor, which appears to reduce speed. Not an option for me, but thanks.

Just be careful: there are some named items that seem like regular stuff, but aren't. Elven Chain, for instance, is not just an example of Mithral chain mail.

No, Elven Chain is expensive and not as good! :-)

Thanks, everybody. All this conversation is very enlightening!

That's the thing -- it isn't a MUST. At least not at this level. I do figure the adventures will get harder!

Celestial Armor 22,400 gold! Wow - it will be a little while.

If money is no object (eventually) then bracers of Armor are probably the best archer armor, but it is extremely pricey and stops you from using bracers of Archery, which I assume you will want to do.

I assume I want to also, if I survive long enough to be able to.... :-)

Thanks, that list is helpful.

If I understand your line of thinking, you need to take care. Fame caps to spending limits apply to item totals, not to differences in costs. So you can't upgrade from a +1 chain shirt to a +2 chain shirt until you can afford a 5100 gp total from Fame.

Yes, I understand that. Right now, I am limited to 1500 gold (both because that is what I have and that my fame allows).

well it all depends on class as well. I play a Zen archer so for me, I can buy Dex belt +6 for 36000 and +6wis helm for 36000gp and get more ac than if I bought armor. Also have natural armor amulet, bracers of armor and rings of deflection, but stat boosts add ac faster and cheaper.

OK, that definitely makes sense for a monk [with experience].

So I am trying to figure out how to start. Original equipment is just simple studded leather armor (25g, +3 AC).

OK, Chris, thanks.
So what if you were an archer, what armor would you want? Where would you start?

Thanks, Jiggy. I tried reading that twice and missed the part about masterwork. It seemed logical that it would be.

I still would like an official answer from Paizo specifically on the Mithral shirt -- it is not magical, so I don't think it falls in the bucket of pre-enchanted named items.

Now that my Bow has been upgraded, I am considering the armor.
Since my goal is to always stay out of melee, it hasn't really been a problem.

What suggestions do folks have, and why?

I do not want a max Dex of only 4. It needs to be at least 5, and 6 is great. And it MUST be PFS legal.

For example, the Mithral Shirt is Dex 6 (Core p466). It actually seems better to go Mithral Shirt than Studded Leather +1, especially as it is clearly labelled non-magical. So when I do enchant it, it will cost the smaller first tier amount.

I am trying to decide on upgrading my studded leather armor to something else.

There's a Mithral shirt (Core page 466) for 1100g that is Max Dex 6, no armor check penalty. First, is it AC 4 -- the Core pdf does not seems to say. Second, is this shirt upgradeable later to magical (e.g., +1)?

I know darkwood is masterwork and upgradeable, but I don't know if this applies to all special materials in PFS. What is the rule for PFS?

The main difference is it is easier to get feats than talents.

For a rogue, they are both just as easy. Even level up = Talent, Odd level up = Feat. One could get very spoiled with a rogue...

I took a Rogue Talent = Combat Trick to get Precise Shot at L2.
So one can take the trick talent again to get a Feat at any even level up, and take the Extra Rogue Talent (Feat) to get any talent at an odd level up.

So it really boils down to
Are they the same except for the distance limit?

Shadow Strike is sounding better...

FEAT Shadow Strike (Combat): You accurately strike even those you cannot clearly see. Source: Advanced Player's Guide. Prerequisite: Base attack bonus +1. Benefit: You can deal precision damage, such as sneak attack (SA) damage, against targets with concealment (but not total concealment).

ROGUE TALENT Sniper’s Eye (Ex): A rogue with this talent can apply her sneak attack damage on ranged attacks targeting foes within 30 feet that benefit from concealment. Foes with total concealment are still immune.

I am trying to figure out the differences between these two, and which one might be more useful.

The Feat has no range limit. The talent has a limit of 30 feet which SA had anyway...
Is the Feat allowing SA to all w/o total concealment? while the talent adds SA to all w/in 30 feet w/o TOTAL concealment?
Or is Blind Fight better than either? I should say Improved Precise Shot is not an option as it seems like another variant of the same thing...

Being new to this, can anyone give me some examples?