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Gotcha, thank you both for the help in understanding that! My barbarian player had been using a d12 for his falchion, I'll have to break the new to him ^^'


It doesn't state specifically in the description of the Giant Instinct whether the Large weapon the barbarian gains access to uses larger damage dice. It says "It has the normal Price and Bulk for a weapon of its size" but nothing about the damage dice. I checked out the latest version of the pre-gen barbarian, which shows the Large bastard sword stats as dealing 1d8 slashing with the two-hand d12 trait, which are the same stats as a Medium bastard sword.

If the damage dice aren't increased, what is the benefit of using a Large weapon that's bulkier, more expensive, and imposes the clumsy condition? Would the two-hand trait use the same d12 if the Large bastard sword is supposed to do 1d10?


Ryze Kuja wrote:
Critical Focus wrote:

Critical Focus (Combat)

You are trained in the art of causing pain.

Prerequisites: Base attack bonus +9.

Benefit: You receive a +4 circumstance bonus on attack rolls made to confirm critical hits

This right here is enough to cause Legendary Champion to be suspect that it does not affect confirmation rolls, because if it were supposed to, it would say so. There are a myriad of feats/abilities that specifically call out that it applies to confirmation rolls.

I'm inclined to return to my original position that no, Legendary Champion does not apply to critical confirmation rolls.

I noticed Critical Focus when trying to figure this out too, but I think it specifies that only to say it doesn't apply to the initial attack roll, otherwise wouldn't it just say "You receive a +4 bonus to confirm critical hits"?


willuwontu wrote:

Legendary champion would apply to the confirmation roll.

Quote:
To find out if it’s a critical hit, you immediately make an attempt to “confirm” the critical hit—another attack roll with all the same modifiers as the attack roll you just made. If the confirmation roll also results in a hit against the target’s AC, your original hit is a critical hit.
It's an attack roll, legendary champion applies to attack rolls.

Even immediately rolling again if the crit confirmation doesn't beat AC? Or only the extra mythic power from the nat 20?


Ryze Kuja wrote:


It's not a dumb question.

Short answers: No and no.

If they were meant to affect critical confirmations, it would say so. These abilities only affect attack rolls.

Thanks for clarifying for me! All I could find in rules text generally said anything that adds a bonus to an attack roll also treats the confirmation roll as an attack roll, but I couldn't find anything regarding changes to the actual die roll. I've been digging for an answer for a while so you've helped a lot, thanks again!


Probably a dumb question but does the Mythic path ability Sudden Attack allow you to also roll a confirmation roll twice, taking the higher result?

Same concept in question with the Legendary Champion ability. If the confirmation roll does not beat the AC, do you immediately roll it again, taking the second result?

For reference:

Sudden Attack (Ex)
As a swift action, you can expend one use of mythic power to make a melee attack at your highest attack bonus. This is in addition to any other attacks you make this round. When making a sudden attack, you roll twice and take the better result, adding your tier to the attack roll. Damage from this attack bypasses all damage reduction.

Legendary Champion (Ex)
At 10th tier, whenever you make an attack roll against a non-mythic foe and miss, you may immediately roll again. You must take the second roll, even if it’s lower. Once per round when you roll a natural 20 on an attack roll, you regain one use of mythic power.


Probably a dumb question but does the Mythic path ability Sudden Attack allow you to also roll a confirmation roll twice, taking the higher result?

Same concept in question with the Legendary Champion ability. If the confirmation roll does not beat the AC, do you immediately roll it again, taking the second result?

For reference:

Sudden Attack (Ex)
As a swift action, you can expend one use of mythic power to make a melee attack at your highest attack bonus. This is in addition to any other attacks you make this round. When making a sudden attack, you roll twice and take the better result, adding your tier to the attack roll. Damage from this attack bypasses all damage reduction.

Legendary Champion (Ex)
At 10th tier, whenever you make an attack roll against a non-mythic foe and miss, you may immediately roll again. You must take the second roll, even if it’s lower. Once per round when you roll a natural 20 on an attack roll, you regain one use of mythic power.