One important thing about the Target of Opportunity: it takes an Immediate Action, and that will prevent you from using a Swift Action until after your next turn. A Zen Archer/Inquisitor has a lot of things that cost swift actions (pretty much all Ki abilities, Judgments, Bane). That doesn't make it a bad choice, but it's important to look at whatever else you'll be wanting to do.
james maissen wrote:
@james maissen Indeed. I checked on that after your last post and it's only ever been melee. It's amazing how prolific the misuse of that has been, myself included. Like a mentioned above, the archer's answer to that is definitely the Bracers of Falcon's Aim.@CKorfmann
Anyway, the keen property for archers is trumped by the Bracers of Falcon's Aim. It doubles the threat of bows. It's WAY undercosted. I plan on picking up a pair for my character when I can at the cost of 8,000gp (double). That's still a bargain, BTW. It's adding a +1 property (Keen), as well as a +1 competence bonus to hit and a slight bonus to Perception.
@ckorfmann: The wording on that seems pretty solid in that if you are an Inquisitor, you are treated as 5 levels higher. I read that as lvl 2 Inquisitor with the baldric uses Bane as a lvl 7 Inquisitor. BTW, the domain I chose was Healing. I can tell you it's a sub-par choice, but fits with my character storywise. Conversion is good, as is Spellkiller. I would have taken the Spellkiller Inquisition if it were a choice at the time. @Grizzly the Archer: The bad part about the non-inquisitor use is that it attunes to a light or one-handed melee weapon; your bow will not count. @james maissen: It worked in 3.5 and it does in PFRPG. It only specifies slashing or piercing, and does not differentiate melee vs. ranged vs. ranged projectile. The spell that it is based on, Keen Edge, also specifically works on projectiles: http://paizo.com/prd/spells/keenEdge.html Also, see this Paizo-published stat block for an Animal Lord with a Keen Bow:
Zen archer is all amazing stuff, but I'm already the MVP at dishing out damage. I want to focus less on that and do some more support stuff. More Inquisitor means better judgments, more spellcasting, and, eventually, Bane. The Teamwork feats are far less useful for the ranged types, so I'm going to do the Preacher archetype. The action economy for both Monks and Inquisitors is tight in regards to Swift and Immediate actions (which the Defense option for Determination requires), but the Warning option seems good for supporting party members.
Thanks for the advice! The issue with those is that they require Rapid Shot as a prereq, which is a total dead feat. I can't use it with Flurry, and Flurry is just better. I would have taken the elf racial feat Stabbing Shot, as well, if it did not require that. I just decided to change course and go for more Inquisitor levels, though; but I'm thinking that I'll do the Preacher archetype and forego Solo Tactics altogether. Determination is neat. Rerolls for me are middle of the road, but the ability to force an opponent to reroll a successful attack against a party member seems top notch.
Okay, hit level 7 with this guy. He added Weapon Specialization (class feature granted this feat), Parting Show was his bonus feat and his 7th level feat was Monkey Style. I went with that over Spider Step, mainly because I hate being on the ground and had some issue with that in past adventures. That, and adding my Wisdom bonus to Acrobatics checks is amazing. This puts my Acrobatics check at +18, or +32 (boostable to +52 with a ki point!)when jumping. Finally tumbling through threatened squares is viable. Still haven't made progress on getting my bow upgraded or the Bracers of Falcon's Aim, but I'm already dishing out the most damage in the party anyway. I'm also considering retraining the Healing domain to the Spellkiller Inquisition.
More thoughts on the Bracers of Falcon's Aim: Yeah, I'm thinking that the fact that these are still a no-brainer to buy for me at twice the price tells me that they're significantly undercosted. A +2 Keen Holy Bow (a +5 weapon) would cost 50,000gp. On the other hand, a +1 Holy Bow would cost 18,000, and the Bracers of Falcon's Aim 8,000gp (at the price we recosted them at in my campaign) totals 26,000gp. Yes, the +1 competence bonus to hit doesn't add to the damage (or get tripled on a crit), but I get a half-strength Eyes of the Eagle to compensate. Yes, that is a no-brainer buy for any archer as soon as they can afford it.
More thoughts on Guided: since it didn't show up in Ultimate Equipment, I'm going to forego that one, probably. Bracer's of Falcon's Aim definitely on my list, though I discussed it with my DM. I told him I thought they were significantly undercosted. He thought increasing the price to 8,000gp was reasonable, and I agreed. A +1 to hit, plus Keen, plus a Perception bonus that works with any bow you use is definitely worth 8k.
Jacob, thank you for the feedback. I still think it's well below the bar set by the Whip Feather Token, since that really is like another combatant, lasts longer and can be directed. The conditions you can apply via Dirty Trick are hindering, but with every one you can attack anyway with penalties. The damage + grapple + hour duration + directing of the whip I really feel is a lot more than this does. I guess I would ask if people think the whip is undercosted... and the answer to that very well may be yes.
My original items was the Orb of Aggravation. Here is what it has become: Harpy Egg
I wrote a blog post about this here: A Tale of Two Items, or Why I'm Not A Superstar The random effect is still there, but the price increased a bit, the CMB lowered and it requires a ranged touch attack to deliver. I suppose "spamming" is still a possibility, but by the time an adventuring party is able to dump that amount of resources into multiple of these for a single enemy, the CMDs of the enemies should make the issue somewhat moot. Thoughts?
I'm looking at the d20pfsrd entry, and it doesn't say melee only. The text does strongly seem to imply it is intended for melee weapons. Tough call; I'll run that by the primary DM. It would be nice to swap Wisdom for the damage modifier (already used for attack rolls for being a level 3+ Zen Archer). If not, probably will just hold off until I can afford Holy.
What!?! That mean 'ol archer! :) I'm pretty excited for my next level (CL 7, so Monk 6/Inq 1) for this guy. It's a three feat windfall! Weapon Specialization, Spider Step (run up walls!) and Parting Shot. "BTW, big bad melee dude... I'm going to use the withdraw action to retreat straight up this wall without an AoO, and while I'm running up there, I'm going to shoot you."
Jerry Keyes wrote:
Yeah, I definitely should not have opened like that. I had read Sean's guidelines, but somehow rookied that anyway. Good call on the spell requirement; I'll reconsider that one. Perfect Tommy wrote:
Compare to the 500gp Whip Feather Token. Very similar effect, but that hangs around an hour and grapples. One could argue the same for that. But I see the point that since it can bestow effects lasting longer than a round, it can possibly stack some different effects. Thanks for the feedback, guys!
Thomas LeBlanc wrote:
Thanks for the feedback! Range would have been a good addition. Though very similar in function to a Whip Feather Token, it probably should have been costed higher. Not sure, though, since a whip sticks around for an hour and can be directed, and this is a fire-and-forget. The spamming possibility is a good point, although I would almost expect that to be a Whip Feather Token issue. My original draft had a ranged touch attack to target it, but I thought that would have been clunky.
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James Raine wrote:
You just made my day! My Orb of Aggravation is on your list! Thanks! BTW, I really liked first light. It reminded me somewhat of the phial Galadriel gave Frodo.
Template Fu wrote:
Fixed! Mostly... it's a very minor devil. It's a good thing I spent more than 3 minutes on my superstar entry. :)
Would that be this map: Map of Imminent Danger
Slot none; Price 12,000 gp This rolled-up piece of parchment is actually the prison of a devil. When the command word is spoken (typically, Map!), a cheerful face appears on it and it appears to be friendly and helpful. If you ask it how to get you to a destination, it will dutifully tell you a correct route to get there... but it will be a very circuitous route with at least three life-threatening encounters (CR/EL equal the level of the user), which it will identify. The user of the map finds himself incapable of taking a different route unless he succeeds at a Will save (DC 21). Craft Wondrous Item, Knowledge (Geography) 5 ranks , lesser planar ally, misdirection; Cost 6,000 gp ;) Just kidding! Not an actual entry.
Ooh... missed that sorcerer archetype. That looks pretty spiffy, though I can't even justify a second level of Inquisitor with all the goodies the ZAM gives!. Also, I'm very sorry I didn't respond to this before; I hadn't seen your response until now. Good catch on the hit points; I'm going to correct that.
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