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Frencois wrote:
Radtz wrote:


So if a character has to pass let's say an acrobatic check and doesn't have the skill, even though the character has a high DEX, he/she should use a d4 instead?

Absolutely. There is a few things to grab if you are an old RPG player in order not to get confused :

In the RPG you have characteristics/abilities on one side and skills on the other. Those are separate things and usually each skill has a given ability associated that gives bonus/malus to the skill. FORGET IT!

In the card game you ONLY have skills. So Wisdom is a skill, Perception is a skill and NOTHING links one and the other as a general rule.

EVERY character have EVERY skill at a base level of d4 unless written differently in their character card.

So character A may have no mention of Perception on her card, for a real skill level of d4. Character B may have Perception=Wisdom+3 and Wisdom=d6+2, for a real Perception skill level of d6+5. And character C may have Perception=Intelligence+1 and Intelligence=d8, for a real Perception skill level of d8+1.

But since whatever is true for character B has no influence on character A, character A cannot refer to character B's card to pretend that Perception is somehow linked to Wisdom. It may be true for character B, but not for A or C.

Take the Acrobatics example. You could easily design 4 totally different kind of characters.
One that has no acrobatics whatsoever (d4)
One that has it inheriting from her Dexterity skill (Dex+2).
One that has it inheriting from her Strength skill (Str+1).
One that has it inheriting from her Intelligence skill (why not after all?).

Basic rule: if it's not in YOUR cards, it's not! If nothing in YOUR cards tells you about a specific skill, you are at d4 for that skill.

Simple.

Thank you for answering with the logic of an RPG player :D Me and my group are currently also playing the RPG and sometimes the logic mixed up with the Card Game and we need some conclusion, and kudos for the analogy of a spell scroll.. Very easy to understand :)

Btw, i'm sorry, i dont know how to multiquote a post


Axoq wrote:
Radtz wrote:


So if a character has to pass let's say an acrobatic check and doesn't have the skill, even though the character has a high DEX, he/she should use a d4 instead?

All skills are separate. If the Check to Defeat says:

WISDOM
PERCEPTION
6

...then you either need to pass a Wisdom check for 6 or a Perception check for 6. For many characters their Perception check is listed under Wisdom, and therefore is based on their Wisdom ability. Characters that don't have Perception listed roll a d4 all by itself. (In other words, just because you're very good at shooting a bow, doesn't mean you can do a mean cartwheel.)

Look also at Ezren versus Seoni. One has an Arcane check based on his Intelligence, the other on her Charisma. If Harsk needs to do an Arcane check, which one would he use? Well, neither. He's not a spellcaster of either type, so he should do lousy at the check.

Aahh okay thank you so much for answering, that clear things up :D


Hawkmoon269 wrote:
RealAlchemy wrote:
Radtz wrote:

Thank you First World Bard :D

Another question just popped out of nowhere..

If i have to make Perception check on an encounter, but don't have the particular Perception skill, do I automatically failed? Or should I roll my wisdom die since perception is based on wisdom? :D

Any skill which can be used untrained (check for the mark which indicates this on your character sheet) defaults back to the ability modifier. Wisdom for perception, Charisma for diplomacy, and Strength for climb, just to pull out three common ones.
I believe RealAlchemy is thinking of the RPG, not the card game.

Yeah i think so.. :D But thanks Real Alchemy :) I played the RPG also..

So if a character has to pass let's say an acrobatic check and doesn't have the skill, even though the character has a high DEX, he/she should use a d4 instead?


Thank you First World Bard :D

Another question just popped out of nowhere..

If i have to make Perception check on an encounter, but don't have the particular Perception skill, do I automatically failed? Or should I roll my wisdom die since perception is based on wisdom? :D


Me and my gaming group are currently playing the Rise of The Runelords.. We played a couple of session but still can not get the hang of some of the rules. Here they are:

1. Let's say that i am playing Sajan and has got a +1 Skill feat on my d10 Dex. If I use a Blessing of The God to a combat check to add another dex die.. How do i count it? Do I roll 1d10+1 and another 1d10+1? Or do i roll 1d10+1 and just a plain d10?

2. Still playing as Sajan. If I encounter a spell on an exploration that says: "if you dont have arcane or divine skills, banish this card" (that i dont have of course), may I try to acquire it? Or should it be banished exactly at the moment of the encounter?

3. A little similar with rhe first question. Still on my Dex: d10+1.. If i use acrobatic for a check (Dexterity+2) do I roll 1d10+1+2? And what if i use Blesssing of The Gods to add a die to that roll? Just a plain 1d10 die?

4. Let's say I suffer a damage of 1 and have only a Father Zantus card in my hand. Can I bury Father Zantus before i take the damage? Or do i have to discard it as damage first?

I think that's all for now :D

Thank tou :)