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i have a 24 for a cha


ok i can see what your saying. i knew there was something not right.

So then does the rulers +8 economy also stack with Magister's, Marshal, Etc. economy bonus on the kingdom sheet?


I have a question about the Ultimate Campaign leadership statistics. Does all the bonuses that come from the leadership roles stack on the kingdom sheet. So if the ruler has a 9 for an economy bonus and the marshal has an 8. Would the leadership bonus for the kingdom be 17? And then does it stack for buildings in settlements and kingdoms?

In the Leader Statistics section. pg 201 it states

Benefit: This explains the benefit to your kingdom if you
have a character in this role. If you have the Leadership
feat, increase this benefit by 1.

So this tells me that if any of the leadership roles have leadership they get a +1 added on to their bonus

Also in the Ruler section. pg 201 it states

"Benefit: Choose one kingdom attribute (Economy, Loyalty, or Stability).
Add your Charisma modifier to this attribute.If your kingdom’s Size is 26–100, choose a second kingdom attribute and add your Charisma modifier to it as well. If your kingdom’s Size is 101 or more, choose a third kingdom attribute and add your Charisma modifier to it too.

If you have the Leadership feat, the bonus from the feat
applies to all kingdom attributes you affect (one, two, or
three attributes, depending on the kingdom’s Size).

I am Ruler so i will choose economy for instance Cha Mod +7 Kingdom size is small so only one attribute. I have the leadership feat so i add my leadership score of 16 (lvl 7 + cha 7 + Great Renown 2 = 16) so im adding a cha modifier twice(ruler benefit because it says to. cha mod 7 + leadership score 16 = 23
Now im not adding in the first leadership bonus of +1 cause the ruler has its own calculation listed for leadership Bonus.
Is this correct or am i not seeing something?