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I have been using Ultimate Rulership, as I made an attempt to mention in my first post. Both options you present seem very useful, and relatively balanced as we start out. I'll use them provisionally and see how it plays out in testing. I want to much more thoroughly understand these rules before I tackle Kingmaker. Still open to more ideas though, if anyone has any. I'll update as I go.

Wouldn't mind some brainstorming on how to adjudicate it though. I'm still brand new to these Kingdom building rules and my head is still struggling to hold it all in without exploding. I'm doing a rough play-test at the moment to see how it all fits together and this question came up very quickly.

I've been pouring over the Kingdom Building Rules, both in Ultimate Campaign and In Ultimate Rulership, and there seems to be a big thing missing. Where do the NPCs (or for that matter, the PCs) filling Leadership roles get their income? Buildings built with BP don't automatically belong to the Leaders and so shouldn't earn them any kind of capital (Downtime rules), but if they are staying with their kingdoms and not adventuring, are they stuck using Downtime rules to earn all their gp, etc? No personal economic benefits at all for filling a leadership role? You have a General that you're not paying and you expect her to be loyal? This seems like a big hole in the believably of these rules. Must a Leader also be an adventurer to earn any kind of decent living?