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Thank you for the replies. After reading them, I realize you two are probably correct. Thank you for your replies.


This build starts, as the title says, by making use of the two weapon fighting chain AND the startoss chain. It, hypothetically, makes use of this by way of the ricochet toss (RT) feat, and I just want to make sure that this is a valid method and determine (hopefully by RAW) what the penalties and benefits would be if this method is valid.

For the purpose of this hypothesis, im assuming ~level 11, access to imp. twf, full startoss chain to examine how the method operates. Additionally, only one weapon ( a chakram for example) will be used.

At the start of combat, swift action: enter startoss style and make a full attack against a foe within 1st range increment.

Make the first main hand attack, weapon returns via RT, second main hand attack and returns via RT, and potentially third main hand returns via RT. These attacks gain the +6 to damage from the startoss line of feats and will take the penatly to attack from the two weapon fighting line (-2, as the off hand weapon is unarmed strike, for now(?)).

Switch the weapon from main hand to off hand as a free action, and repeat the process for the two off hand attacks. These attacks obviously take the twf penalty (-2, I think as the main hand is an unarmed strike for these attacks, -4 if considering the main hand a chakram from earlier). But do the off hand attacks qualify for the startoss damage boost?

Links, and a build can be provided/made if needed.


Thanks! I guess i should have thought about the wider implications a bit more, haha. By the logic I was using, capstone abilities could be unlocked by dipping a single class level into them at a sufficient character level. Woops.


Hi! First time posting here, so please forgive me if I am not following all of the etiquette.

I have a question about the stance rage powers for the UC barbarian interacting with multiclass levels, specifically Guarded Stance but the question would also apply to accurate, elemental, powerful, etc.

The specific wording on the Guarded Stance Rage Power is: "Guarded Stance (Ex): The barbarian can take on a more defensive posture. This grants her a +1 dodge bonus to her Armor Class for the duration of her current rage. This bonus increases by 1 for every 4 levels the barbarian has. This is a stance rage power."

Would levels in classes outside of UC Barbarian provide increases to the benefits of Guarded Stance? For instance, a UC Barb 4/*insert another class* 4 would gain +3 dodge bonus to AC from Guarded Stance since they would have 8 levels.