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BigNorseWolf wrote:

Longbow, Composite

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From the Strength description

Damage rolls when using a melee weapon or a thrown weapon, including a sling. (Exceptions: Off-hand attacks receive only half the character's Strength bonus, while two-handed attacks receive 1–1/2 times the Strength bonus. A Strength penalty, but not a bonus, applies to attacks made with a bow that is not a composite bow.)

Huh. I'd always read the last part as a strength penalty applying to the attack ROLL but now i'm not so sure.

But unless the DM says your heirloom longbow is Keyed to a -2 ability score you're going to take a -2 penalty to shoot with it. I think you're looking at either -2 to hit or -2 to damage if not both.

I think there's a pretty good chance, since it costs a trait and presumably my kobold forebears weren't stronger than me. Also, the trait only works on that specific weapon. If I pick up a halfling's longbow I would take the nonproficiency penalties.

Imagine if I did take the sneak attack build, though - I'm so good at hitting vital areas that I get a a total of 6d6 of damage with an arrow, yet somehow I'm so weak that that score would get a -2.
Note that the "strength penalty, but not a bonus" bit is under the heading for damage rolls, separate from the heading for "to hit", which applies to melee.


Shifty wrote:


Yet 16 Str for a Small creature DOES NOT EQUAL 16 Str for a medium does it? It is actually TWO DIFFERENT FIGURES.

Hint: look up carrying capacity for size. There's the first clue.

uhwhaaa? In what way are they two different figures? Aren't they the same figure, but the small creature sufferes a penalty during character creation?

So a halfling Paladin with STR 16 and a human rogue with STR 14 sit down and have an arm wrestling contest. The halfling doesn't have a bigger strength bonus?