| Parallaxus |
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I disagree with the way some guys are approaching discussing rules.
Take this into thought when you post your comment.
First and foremost, am I about to post my opinion or actual game facts.
If it's game facts, source it. This forum generally consists of ppl wanting factual answers, not conjecture, if possible, and if not what your best guess of interpretation is.
Second, (and this is the part that people are violating) if you are stating your opinion for when there is no official ruling of any kind, you need to make damn sure you don't post your opinion as being authoritative. Stating someone else's DM "is mistaken" b/c your guess about how it SHOULD work, not how it does work, is different from his while discussing a subject with no factual right or wrong to it is stupid.
Third, you're arguing over two parts of a subject, and so to avoid arguments caused from misunderstanding, state whether your point is over the "how it should work" or if your comment is over "how you think it actually does work according to the wording of the rules", aka your interpretation. Some ppl are arguing interpretation with other ppl who are opining about it should work.
Too many arguments start b/c of not being clear about we're talking about.
alexd1976 did it well.
As for my interpretation about how it does work, I don't have one. I lean towards them probably not being intended to work together, but it's so close I don't even really want to state that as my opinion of the rule's intent. It's not clear if spells add a movement mode to something or not. As to how I think it should work, I don't have an opinion. I'd like to read some official precedents of other spells working in synergy or independently of each other. The only rule I can think of where the core rules state how two things interact with each other is the two feats maximize and empower, stating they do not affect each other, they only affect the base spell, but that is a piss poor case to use as a precedent for whether spells should work together or not.