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SheepishEidolon wrote:
Nature Fang's Sneak Attack replaces Resist Nature's Lure, a mediocre one-time boost. Why should someone get up to 9d6 sneak attack in return? It would be totally unbalanced, with the usual drawbacks: Making GM's life more difficult, making fellow players' life more boring, forcing optimizing people to take it.

And the Sacred Huntsmaster Inquisitor gets an animal companion as a druid for the cost of a 1/day use of judgement and gains hunter tactics in exchange for absolutely nothing. Archetypes come as a package, you have to look up all they give up and all they gain to determine balance. This is why you can't just grab archetype abilities a la carte. The nature fang gives up wild shape, unarguably the best class feature for a melee druid, I feel that more than entitles him to at least some sneak attack progression.


dragonhunterq wrote:

Even if I'm wrong this:

OnceBittenTwiceShy wrote:

... I argue that the statement "This functions as the rogue sneak attack ability" includes the "increases by 1d6 every two rogue levels thereafter" from the description of the rogue's sneak attack. Who's right here?

is probably not the strongest argument. How many rogue levels have you gained precisely?

That same rogue sneak attack entry also reads "The rogue's attack deals extra damage anytime her target would be denied a Dexterity bonus to AC (whether the target actually has a Dexterity bonus or not), or when the rogue flanks her target." so I guess a nature fang (who isn't a rogue) also doesn't have any conditions under which he can actually apply his sneak attack damage.


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My nature fang druid just hit level 6 and my DM and I got into an argument about whether its sneak attack gains a new damage dice.

He says it doesn't because the archetype doesn't specifically call out a level advancement in the ability. I argue that the statement "This functions as the rogue sneak attack ability" includes the "increases by 1d6 every two rogue levels thereafter" from the description of the rogue's sneak attack. Who's right here?