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Thank you everyone for your ideas, it was very fun to find new archetype/combination. I still haven't tried everything you've sent me but I'll be sure to try them all


@Reksew_Trebla -> Because it doesn't fit his world setting. Same goes for mithral, he doesn't want us to make any of our stuff in it -_-

@Northern Spotted Owl -> I'll look into that as well! thanks ^_^


First of all, thank you all for the quick reply.

@tottemas -> that's a really interesting archetype that I wasn't aware of, thank you for this! I'll probably use it for other game! Although, I don't really like to loose the sneak attack with it.

@belafon -> these are what I usually do. For exemple, right now I'm doing a Fighter (Tower Shield Specialist)/Kineticist but I wanted to see what else was out there. There's so many stuff and even if I read lots of it, I haven't touched everything yet.

@Melkiador -> I love the Summoner/paladin idea. I'm working on a build as I write that and it looks promising! I'll look into your other suggestion afterwards

@Deathlessone -> I glance over what you sent, but they are classes I'm not too familiar with and I'll have to look deeper into it before making a real idea about it, sorry >_<

@Reksew_Trebla -> Wow that is quite the build! Although very interesting, my DM sadly won't allow it. I won't use it as my own character, but if I ever need to make a BBEG for a game I'll dm, I may keep it stashed somewhere *evil laugh*

@gm turin -> ?!


DeathlessOne wrote:

You should probably specify if it is only limited to 1st party content (made by Paizo) or if 3rd party sources are available, as d20pfsrd contains a LOT of material that is not specifically from Paizo.

Once you clear that up, I can offer some advice. What roles or function do you want your character to excel at? Front-liner only tells me that you want to be up in the thick of hit, likely heavy on the armor and hard to take down.

Yes sorry I forgot about that. While the DM sometimes agree to 3rd party publishing, I try to avoid it. So it's up to you really, I'll deal with the rest ^_^


Hello everyone, I'm here to try and pick the brain of the community. I've been playing almost every classes possible and tried numerous different combination, but I've decided to see other's opinion on the matter.

In my pathfinder group, we use a system called gestalt. For those of you who don't know, it's a dual class system where you take the best of 2 classes each level. For exemple, you can be a Fighter/Wizard, gaining the BAB, Fort saves and hit dice of the Fighter and the will save of the wizard. You also take the weapon and armor profficiency of the Fighter and all the skills of both classes. You then take everything else each class offers (bonus feat, spells, etc...)

Now that this is explained, there we go with the question. I want to make the best possible front liner, min-maxing everything possible. The new character will be level 8 (hoping to go all the way to 20), using 20 points buy and having 33 000 gp. We are usually using the "background generator" but choosing what we like, so that can be used for some extra little bonuses here and there (maximum 1 of each section except for classes since we have technically 2). As long as the information is on d20pfsrd or paizo, the DM usually allows it (except the races which needs to be a bit more traditionnal).

The rest of the party is as follow :

1 melee which focus mostly on sunder
1 melee sneaky casting relying on sneak attack
1 archer that is also our healer (not very efficient might I add)
1 bard that mostly focus on buffing us

You may or may not take that into account when pitching ideas :)

TLDR :

-min max as much as possible
-Gestalt character
-20 point buy stats
-level 8
-33 000 gp
-background generator bonuses
-front liner
-needs to be from d20pfsrd or paizo (no homebrew/RAW)