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Kailas, ty, some small notes though:

For rake in first round:
Pounce (Ex)
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When a creature with this special attack makes a charge, it can make a full attack (including rake attacks if the creature also has the rake ability).
Format: pounce; Location: Special Attacks.

So tiger can pounce and rake in first round before grapple. But that is just a minor point, grapple is the issue :)

Basically all of the above can be done, with -20 on check to mantain grapple the following round (and no penalty except those from grappled condition while trying to initiate grapple while using normal attacks with grab in FIRST round against second and third target)?

Jeesh!


Hello all

I have a quick (or not so quick) question about creatures with multiple natural attacks and grab...

For instance, tiger (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/animals/felines/cat-gre at/tiger/) has 2 claws + 1 bite attack (and additional 2 rake attacks when he pounces). All of his attacks have GRAB special monster ability.

Scenario 1:
Tiger pounces his target, and hits with his first attack, grabs it (passes cmd and enters grapple) what happens with the rest of his attacks? Do they continue as normal (albeit with grappled condition on both tiger and the target), or do they stop? (as GRAB gives free grapple attempt).

Scenario 2:
Tiger pounces his target, hits with first attack and fails his grapple check. Hits with his second attack and... he gets another grapple check? If so, does he get up to 5 free grapple attempts on one target untill one grapple finally suceeds? (I am not sure if rake gives grapple attempt in pounce as well since it is claw, but even without it it would mean up to 3 grapple attempts per pounce).

Scenario 3 (In case tiger attacks dont stop after he enters grapple):
Tiger attacks his target, and hits with his first attack, grabs it (passes cmd and enters grapple). He uses his second attack to hit different target standing next to him and gets free grab attempt (with appropriate minuses for already having grappled condition). He uses his third attack to attack third target even though he is already grappling with two targets. If he passes that check he is currently grappling with three different targets!

Thank you all for the input :)

Regards,

N


Anybody? Anybody at all? :)


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Hello all

I have a question that needs clarifying concerning hunter pet learning skirmisher tricks.

The text says:
The animal companion can use skirmisher tricks when commanded, a number of times per day equal to half its Hit Dice plus its Wisdom modifier.

So HUNTER does not know the tricks himself, the animal companion both knows and performs them.

Some of them are very self explanatory... For instance:

Aiding Attack (Ex): The Ranger can use this trick as a free action when he hits a creature with an attack. The next ally who makes an attack against the target creature before the start of the Ranger’s next turn gains a +2 circumstance bonus on that attack roll.

Nothing too confusing there, pet performs the trick and next ally attacking the target gets +2 bonus.

But then we come to:

Bolster Companion (Ex): The Ranger can use this trick as an immediate action when his animal companion is hit with an attack or a combat maneuver. The companion’s AC and combat maneuver defense increase by +4 for the purposes of that attack. If the attack still hits, the animal companion only takes half damage (if any). The animal companion must be able to see and hear the Ranger to benefit from this trick.

How exactly does this work? Is Ranger animal companion in that and companion is hunter (so AC bolsters the hunter), or does the AC just bolster himself? Or it doesn't work at all?

Same with:

Cunning Pantomime (Ex): As a standard action, the Ranger can communicate with a single creature as if using the tongues spell for 10 minutes. Because the communication is slow and lacks subtlety, the Ranger suffers a –4 penalty on all Bluff and Diplomacy checks relating to the creature he is communicating with when using this trick.

Do we get Lassie with "woof, woof, 3 bad men at the mill come quickly, woof, woof!" scenario?

Some insight would be appreciated :) I tried looking around for answers but all I find are mentions of uses of tricks per day (which are not in question :)).

Thank you all in advance.