Slacker2010 wrote:
Longshot11 wrote:
this still doesn't explain why I would be able to attack with a sword (Standard action) and then cast a Strength spell on myself (also Standard action).
Strength is a lower level spell and can be quickened much easier!
Well obviously you're referring to metamagic feats which would manifest in powers that allowed you to play these spells while doing other things. But not in non-casters and partial-casters being able to cast them at the same time as they engage in martial combat.
Slacker2010 wrote:
Longshot11 wrote:
I'm not saying it should be one way or the other, but I agree with Michael that it creates inconsistency between Martials and Spellcasters. Granted, this may even be desirable (if, for example, the versatility of Spellcasters is considered great enough that they have an additional limitation to balance it off), but if it's just an overlooked disbalance, maybe it's worth addressing.
I'm not sure why this is an issue. Caster can get Mirror Image, or Cloud spells, both are spells you can play in addition to your combat spell. I think this was a cool buff MENT for casters that are still fighting with a weapon.
Mirror image should be compared to armor, which casters either do not have or less than martial characters. Cloud spells are not restrictive to full casters or are you talking about the recharge checks?
We never really took the time to crunch some numbers but overall we observe that in our games martial characters are more capable in combat checks which is of course intended but unless you have examining powers for the casters, more or less all characters have to be capable of fighting their own battles regularly. WOTR has an awful lot of barriers that summon monsters, for example. Overall Casters have to at least recharge their spells and start with 3 dice (1 skill, 2 from the spell) and their inherent static bonus for a combat check. Martials have fewer dice, but generally have higher static bonusses. They could discard the weapon or a Knife for an extra die (actually they could discard any number of Knives for extra dice) and they could play one of the aforementioned spells all after they encountered a monster. A partial-caster also has a small chance at recharging the spell.
A full-caster can play... nothing that the martial could not have played AND he is limited to Buff spells that were in place before he made his combat check.
Since I still have not figured out the intent behind the mechanic, we are houseruling the buff spells as the magical equivalent of Knives. You can play the buff spell, if you played a spell with the Attack trait on the check. Maybe we break the game when we allow our casters to give themselves an extra d6 or +3 on a combat check?
The most ridiculous thing in WOTR the Knowledge checks against monsters allow Enora, Shardra and Imrijka to play Brilliance and Sagacity after they started the encounter but before the combat check.
Although you can use all of these spells perfectly on all characters during non-combat checks on other characters during their combat checks or on yourself while playing a weapon for your combat check, Brilliance, Eloquence and Sagacity are slightly less useful.
