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Cover, Soft Cover, and Reach
Pathfinder Lost Omens, Rulebook, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Hey team,

I searched the forums and saw similar questions were asked over the years, but without much discussion. So tossing out the below for feedback:

One of my players is playing a large species with a natural 10' reach (referred to as "R" below). Directly north of that character are two other PCs/allies ("A" and "B"), occupying a 5' space each. And, directly north of ally "A" is an enemy ("E"), at the 10' space. So in ASCII art, the battleground looks like this (4xRs depicted to show the large size of "R"):

E
AB
RR
RR

Melee player "R" wants to do a full round attack on enemy "E", using their 10' natural reach. However, ally "A" are "B" between them.

I am using the following definition of the

cover rules:
"Cover does not necessarily block precise senses, but it does make it more difficult to hit a target. To determine whether your target has cover from your attack, choose a corner of your square. If any line from this corner to any corner of the target’s square passes through a square or border that blocks line of effect or provides cover, or through a square occupied by a creature, the target has cover. Cover grants you a +4 bonus to AC and a +2 bonus to Reflex saves against attacks that originate from a point on the other side of the cover from you. Note that spread effects can extend around corners and negate these bonuses."
and
soft cover rules:
"Creatures, even enemies, between you and the source of an effect provide you with cover against ranged attacks, giving you a +4 bonus to AC. However, soft cover provides no bonus to Reflex saves, nor does soft cover allow you to attempt a Stealth check."

Because regardless of originating corner, the attack of "R" goes through a space occupied by a creature (either ally "A" or "B") before reaching the target, I believe "E" has cover. Although when we discuss other creatures complicating attacks it is often in the context of soft cover, soft cover only applies to ranged attacks. While I think there is some tension between the basic cover rule and soft cover rule, I believe that can be resolved by treating intervening creatures as providing cover against melee attacks and soft cover against ranged attacks.

Thoughts? Already resolved some place that I missed because I am a fool?