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Thanks again for the assistance guys; work suddenly picked up so I haven't really been able to think much over the last couple days.

Based on what people have been saying so far, I will most likely have a bit more of a play around with the oracle. It seems that it is at least a decent pick to fill the gaps in the group.

I have a ifrit oracle with the burnt curse in mind, thought it sounded funny, just need to have another look through the mysteries now.

Thanks again, once I have the character fleshed out a bit I might post it to see what people think... but that will just depend on if work eases up a little.

@serisan - that link has been immediately forwarded to my group for further use, thanks.

@Takhisis - I also don't know how the DM would feel about a necromancer or a diablist in the extremely anti evil/demon crusade campaign :D

Just to clarify, I have no issue learning a wizard. I just wanted to get some outside opinions before i delve to deeply into any particular class. I mean, one of my main concerns with the oracle was that I didn't know if it would fill the party's magical needs on its own and it seems that that just isn't the case. No one seemed to think the wizard would suffer too greatly from a small foray into charisma, so that route is also viable. For some reason I didn't even think of building a cleric so I may have a play around building one of those (think my friend's battle cleric threw me off seeing it as a caster).

Thanks again people, giving a lot more to think about.

@Nate - I suppose it's a bit of a mix of each. I want to play something which will best suit the party but which won't completely fall down because of inexperience with the casters. Are there any particular things I should read up on if I did go down the mystic theurge path? or is it just a matter of knowing each of the spells and when to use them. Also, how "strict" are they when it comes to their builds, do they need dump stat/s?

Hey, thanks for the quick responses.

@Timebomb - I agree entirely with the "okay not being optimal", I did an optimized build on the ranger as it was the first character I had ever made and just wanted to follow a guide to get a feel for the game. Worked great in combat... really struggled when it came time to do the RP side because I'd dumped charisma and, as I said... really like to talk...

Hence why this time I am leaning toward a charisma caster, or at the very least, a character who hasn't dumped the stat. I suppose as far as that is concerned, it's a matter of learning the "casters should have 'x' in casting stat by 'y' level" sort of requirements so I can play around with stat builds a little more.

@Reynard_the_fox - the player of the paladin has a nasty habit of putting his foot in his mouth every time he speaks, so he probably shouldn't be doing the talking for the group :P

Hey all,
So the DM has revealed he's going to be running the Wrath of the Righteous campaign once the one I'm running is finished. We are allowed to use any official Paizo books (subject to his discretion and wild mood swings). Now my issue is this; I have only played a great sword wielding ranger previously and it seems that this campaign I will be bringing the caster (atm the other players have jumped on 2 fighters, a rogue and a paladin, all going martial builds)

Now I am happy to take a caster, but it has started an entirely circular argument for me, only made worse by my general ignorance of playing casters. IT goes something like this

"I like charisma casters, and the sound of a burnt oracle with spell scar mystery... but I dont know if he would bring all the magic the group would need... it might be better to go arcane caster like the sorc or summoner... but they have limited spell knowledge and we don't really need another melee member... so maybe the wizard, everyone seems to agree they are your magic multitool... but I really don't know where to start with prepared casters and they dont gain a benefit for charisma... maybe I should just be a spontaneous caster and grab scrolls and wands... and the oracle seems to get a decent chunk of desirable spells... but.... blah blah blah..."

So my question is, for a first time caster character, in a group with no other casters, is there any advice on selecting a class? I am open to any help on this one, and while I would prefer to have a character with a charisma score (I like to talk... a lot) I would look at any of the casters.