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Lucky-Red wrote:

I tend to build my characters thematically, around an idea or backstory, as opposed to trying to optimize everything right down to the minutiae.

That being said, I don't think my choices have gimped this character significantly enough to cause any issues with the gameplay. I mean, sure, I'm sacrificing two bloodline powers, two bloodline feats, and five bloodline spells by limiting myself to nine levels of Sorcerer progression, but by taking one level in Cleric, and the rest in Stargazer, I still end up casting as a 19th-level Sorcerer, with the powers and 1st-level spells of three domains, a familiar, two hexes (Cauldron and Secret, neither of which have level-dependent DCs or effects that wouldn't be covered by the Stargazer levels), two Oracle revelations, and access to all the Stargazer's sidereal arcana, one of which (The Mother) would allow me to use Channel Energy as an 11th-level Cleric.

All in all, it perfectly fits the role and background that I envision for my character, and I don't feel as though the trade-off is really that bad.

My suggestion IS the thematic choice though, witch is a generally weaker spell list than sorcerer. I'd argue pushing your way into the sorc/wizard spell list represents far more optimization than stacking levels for the purpose of hexes.

Except I'm not picking Sorcerer in an attempt to "push my way into" the spell list, but rather for access to this bloodline because, again, it's thematically apropos for this character.

I tend to build my characters thematically, around an idea or backstory, as opposed to trying to optimize everything right down to the minutiae.

That being said, I don't think my choices have gimped this character significantly enough to cause any issues with the gameplay. I mean, sure, I'm sacrificing two bloodline powers, two bloodline feats, and five bloodline spells by limiting myself to nine levels of Sorcerer progression, but by taking one level in Cleric, and the rest in Stargazer, I still end up casting as a 19th-level Sorcerer, with the powers and 1st-level spells of three domains, a familiar, two hexes (Cauldron and Secret, neither of which have level-dependent DCs or effects that wouldn't be covered by the Stargazer levels), two Oracle revelations, and access to all the Stargazer's sidereal arcana, one of which (The Mother) would allow me to use Channel Energy as an 11th-level Cleric.

All in all, it perfectly fits the role and background that I envision for my character, and I don't feel as though the trade-off is really that bad.

The key is "If he isn't a cleric"

You are a cleric.

So if I understand this correctly, I would only have access to the 1st-level spell from that domain (in this case, feather fall)? Whereas if I instead had no Cleric levels, I would have access to all of the domain's spells, but only usable once per day?

In the class description of the Stargazer prestige class, it is stated that "At 3rd level, the stargazer gains the Stars subdomain in addition to any domains he already has. His stargazer levels count as (and stack with) cleric levels when determining which domain abilities he gains and their effects. If he isn’t a cleric, the subdomain’s spells are added to his class spell list (if necessary) and to his spells known, spellbook, familiar, or similar source. Spells added this way may be cast only once per day, unless using the stars are right ability. He can use the stars are right ability regardless of his spellcasting class."

I'm making a character with 9 Sorcerer/1 Cleric/10 Stargazer, and I was curious as to how this class ability applies if I plan on using the Stargazer's "+1 level of existing spellcasting class" level bonus exclusively for my Sorcerer spellcasting- would the subdomain spells be added to my known Sorcerer spells, usable once per day, as though I had no levels in Cleric? Or would I only have access to the 1st-level spell from that domain, since I do technically have levels in Cleric, but only one?