Toff Ornelos

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Hi all,

I'm building a character that's inferior in a few ways due to RP reasons. I would like to optimize from these inferior initial conditions in order to make it acceptably effective for Pathfinder Society.

He's basically a dex magus dipping into rogue to get a heap of skills making his background as smith/merchant more valid and to make his acrobatics/diplomacy/stealth/appraise not suck. He is a curious fellow, thus the wide area of interest (and lack of dedication to one thing).

Here goes:

Race
Half-elf
Dual-Minded alternate racial trait

Abilities
20 pt. buy.
STR 13
DEX 18 (16+2)
CON 12
INT 14
WIS 8
CHA 12 (Bad choice #1. I don't like playing mentally inferior characters. The low wisdom is enough...)

Traits
Magical Knack, I know the awesomeness of Magical Lineage. I think this is better for my build. I welcome advice on this choice.
Elven Reflexes, my guess for a good second trait. Advice is welcomed.

Level Progression
1 Rogue
Skills: ACRO, APPR, 2xCRFT, DPLO, DSBL, KNW(dun), KNW(loc), PRCP, PROF(merchnt), STLH)
Feat: Weapon Finesse

2 Magus
Skills: Catching up on spellcraft, arcana, UMD, and 1 more in a craft.

3 Rogue - This second rogue level is not certain. I think this is a good level as I can get evasion and weapon focus.
Skills: Keeping SPCR, ARCA, UMD maxed. Buffing ACRO, STLH, DSBL, and utilizing class skill in CLMB, SWIM.
Feat: Dervish Dance and Weapon Focus(Scimitar) from Rogue Talent.

4 Magus - Magus from here on.

5 Magus
Feat: Arcane Strike (which I believe works with Magical Knack)

6 Magus

7 Magus
Feat: Extra Arcana or Extra Arcane Pool
Bonus feat: Intensify Spell

... And so on

Magus Arcana considerations (not sure here)
Spell Blending for a damage cantrip (Avoiding discussions on Arcane Mark validity...)

Wand Wielder looks good if I can get some wands and it doesn't drain my low arcane pool

Arcane Accuracy is apparently good. I admit, I think it looks expensive.

Familiar would be cute, but I can't see the effectiveness of this.

That's about all of it. I hope someone will find the challenge of making this not suck, interesting, because I really like the flair of this jack-of-all-trades.

Pre-emptive to the "pick a Bard instead" I would like to say, present me a bard who is as offensive as the magus, and doesn't dump intelligence (I'm picky with my way of roleplaying).


Hi all,

I have two questions.

1. Could a gish type cast a spell (with somatic) while merely holding his greatsword in one hand?

2. How many hands are required for activation of scrolls? Is it one hand to hold the scroll and one hand for any somatic component? The logic says yes, but the balance says no (it would suck..).

Related question, but I think I know the answer here.
Do material components require a hand? No, they don't, but why?
Can the hand that does the somatic component handle the material component as well, or does the material component not need to be retrieved from storage to be consumed.

Hoping for enlightened answers and thanks for your time.