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Let's take the arsenal chaplain.
I know that in PFS he can't take AWT but, RAW, can he?
Because the Arsenal Chaplain has this feature:

Quote:

Weapon Training (Ex)

At 5th level, an arsenal chaplain gains weapon training as per the fighter class feature, but the benefits of this weapon training apply only to the his sacred weapons (weapons with which the warpriest has taken Weapon Focus).

And his warpriests levels counts as fighter levels for requisites

Quote:

At 3rd level and every 3 levels thereafter, a warpriest gains a bonus feat in addition to those gained from normal advancement. These bonus feats must be selected from those listed as combat feats. The warpriest must meet the prerequisites for these feats, but he treats his warpriest level as his base attack bonus (in addition to base attack bonuses gained from other classes and Hit Dice) for the purpose of qualifying for these feats.

Finally, for the purposes of these feats, the warpriest can select feats that have a minimum number of fighter levels as a prerequisite, treating his warpriest level as his fighter level.

So, apparently, he can.

But if you read the AWT feat, in the first special section, it says

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Prerequisite(s): Fighter level 5th, weapon training class feature.

Benefit(s): Select one advanced weapon training option, applying it to one fighter weapon group you have already selected with the weapon training class feature.

Special: This feat can be taken more than once, but at most once per 5 fighter levels

It's a limitation, right? Not a prerequisite. Warpriest count as fighter of his warpriest's level only for prerequisite, right?

So, in teory he can qualify for AWT feat because he has weapon training and at level 6 with his bonus feat he count as fighter 6, but he can't take this feat because he hasn't 5 fighter levels. I'm correct or I'm wrong?


ekibus wrote:
Why can't they take advanced weapon training?

Because:

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Special: This feat can be taken more than once, but at most once per 5 fighter levels.

Warpriests are fighter for feats requirements only


Maybe they should incorporate stamina tricks in this unchained fighter as class feature.


Fuzzy-Wuzzy wrote:
Yes, though as you noted it still falls under the "at most once per 5 fighter levels" restriction.
Rub-Eta wrote:

Advanced Weapon Training is a combat feat, so yes, you can pick it up with one of the bonus feats from a fighter (as long as you fulfill the prerequisites).

"This feat can be taken more than once, but at most once per 5 fighter levels." - It doesn't matter if it's a "normal" feat or a bonus feat, this is the restriction.

Thanks for your clarification


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Hi to all fellow pathfinders!
I've a quick question about advanced weapon training as bonus feat.
AWT feat says, in the special section:

d20pfsrd wrote:
Fighters that have the weapon master archetype can select this feat beginning at 4th level. The benefits of a weapon master's advanced weapon training options apply only to his selected weapon rather than all weapons in the same fighter weapon group, and he can't select the weapon specialist advanced weapon training option. A weapon master can select this feat as a bonus feat; if he does so, it doesn't count for the purpose of the requirement that it can be taken at most once per 5 fighter levels.

The question is: a weapon master can take it as a bonus feat, and can take it ignoring the 5 level limit. Ok, that's clear.

But what about a simple fighter?
A simple fighter clearly can take it ( as a normal feat ) once per five level, ok.
But what about take it as bonus feat?
I'm referring only to take it as bonus feat, I know that only a weapon master can ignore the 5 level limit.
Can I, for example, as fighter without weapon master archetype, take it as bonus feat, obviously considering the 5 level limit, since it's listed as combat feat and a fighter can take combat feats as bonus feats?

Thanks in advance.