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Alright so I am starting a new character for a new series of adventures and I read alot of Things about Dirty Trick as a combat maneuver and I wanted to do something different with my character.

But this is the first time I've done such a build so I could really use some feedback.

What I have noted is that for classes the following are good:

Cad 7
Rogue 4
Bounty Hunter 3+

all 3 classes have something to add to the Dirty Trick. 2 rogue talents, and special class abilities.

So what combination of those 3 classes are best? if only a Slayer could take the 2 rogue talents Sneaky Maneuvers and Ynderhanded Trick but they can't.

Other than class the list of feats I am looking at are:

Dirty Fighting
Improved Dirty Trick (but not if taking Rogue levels)
Greater Dirty Trick
Quick Dirty Trick
Dirty Trick Master
Kitsune Style
Kitsune Trick
Suprise Maneuver
Acomplished Sneak Attacker (higher SA for BH + other stuff)

alot of feats to cover, and not really rooom for anything beyond Building up Dirty Trick.

Have I missed any feats?

To summarise:

What class combination is good?
Are there more feats to take?
What are good traits that complement a dirty trick build if any?


I need to create 2 characters for a new campaign and the Group will be a total of 4.

We already have a Cavalier and Skald so I am looking to fill out the diversity of the group.

I have read up on all the guides (unfortunately most are old and not updated with the new books)

I lean towards full-casters, even though they underperform at low-levels compared to melee.

My thoughts right now are on cleric, druid with domain, conjuration wizard or arcanist.

Does anyone have some good suggestions on how to go about making these and in which direction I can build them?

To help me best please note that:

1) My list of classes is not the end-all be-all :) I am open to ideas and thoughts.
2) Under no circumstance will I be playing a support/healbot/trapfinder.
3) Most classes focusing on melee combat are out, especially rogues and slayers - I've played enough of those types, time to try something new.

Please help me define and refine my characters!

Oh and I need these characters made before the 25th.