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Gee, JD, thanks. It's not like people can't just read the class. ;)

Although one little nitpick. You said that he gets "whirlwind without requirements" - in Frank's rules, whirlwind is a feat that has absolutely no requirements (and is also heavily modified). In this way, it's no different than a pre-selected fighter bonus feat.


Hi all. The website linked in the first post is my own, although I wasn't the one who made the class (it was put up there with my permission, however). I think a little bit of explination is in order...

First, is this samurai powerful? Hell yes, it's an extremely powerful class. Is it overpowered? Compared to the "normal" samurai, of course. But no matter how you slice it, the normal samurai sucks - he can't hold up against opponents of an equal CR.

You'll find that all of the classes in Frank and K's SRD are much more powerful than others. Even the feats and whatnot are more powerful. The classes were designed to be used in a game where clerics are using divine metamagic, wizards are laying down amazing save or dies, and all sorts of crazy effects are going on. In short, they're for a game where the DM is NOT houseruling out a lot of stuff, and casters are played to full potential. You may not play in this way, but the author does. This hardly makes it "the definition of broken", it just means that the classes are designed around a different balance point. I don't expect 99% of gamers to use that balance point, personally. But there's NOTHING wrong with the 1% of us who do.

Now, to address specific comments...

. wrote:
besides the fact that the base attack bonus is broken

All classes by this author have their BAB like this. This is so that the low BAB attacks aren't being made at -15 to hit, and are more useful.

. wrote:
The OA samurai is fine. imo...

The OA samurai CANNOT properly compare to monsters of its CR. It's literally PROVABLY underpowered. Not to mention the OA samurai has so many dead levels, it's an empty, boring class. At the very least, they need some unique abilities to fill out the giant gaps. But be warned if you use it as is, it simply won't compare to some classes played to their full potential without houserules, and won't be able to compete according to how the CR system says it should.

For those of you curious to see more of the author's work, there's the rest of my website HERE that contains all the "crunchy" bits. Theres a TON of good flavor bits that can be found on the four pinned threads here, or In this SRD.

And before anyone says anything about him not making proper feats or classes for the non-warrior types, that's simply because he hasn't gotten to them yet. His next release, Book of Gears, scheduled soon, will be all about magical items, skills, artificers, and more.

Edit: This thread also has a bunch of sample characters made with the rules.


Apologies if this isn't the right place for the topic.

I found a knife with the dragon magazine logo at an auction, and I was wondering if it was an official dragon promotional item, or... well, WHAT it is.

It folds up, and both the blade and handle are about two inches long. The handle is a golden color, and has a picture of the gold dragon (same as the 3e MM) on it, as well as the old dragon magazine symbol - the one with the "3" over the G. It came in a tin, which also has the dragon and the symbol on it. Was this actually made by dragon, or a non-related company who just took the "dragon" symbol?

Any help is appreciated, thanks.