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Okay, thank you all. I think this answers my question.


Blueluck wrote:
Abraham spalding wrote:
Size matters not. Look at me, judge me by my size do you? And well you should not.
+1

Yeeees. Quite elucidating, thank you.

The description of Charm Monster reads:

"This spell functions like charm person, except that the effect is not restricted by creature type or size."

This seems to suggest that charm person is both restricted by creature type (which is confirmed in the charm person spell as humanoid), and size, which is not confirmed in the charm person spell.

So, is it the intent of charm person to only be able to be used on humanoids of a certain size?


As written Charm Person appears to affect any humanoid, including giants.

Is it the intent of the spell, charm person, to affect humanoid (giant) creatures? I ask because the Charm Monster spell seems to indicate that charm person is restricted by both creature type and SIZE.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.


I appreciate that "as written" the power affects constructs, undead, or presumably, plants...as long as they are determined to be a "creature." I also appreciate the cautionary statement of how applying logic to fluff game rules can cause or exacerbate mental instability. I do have a problem with that....the logic-to-fluff thing, not the mental instability.

I think, perhaps, what I appreciate most of all is someone weighing in with an "official" position and flagging this for future errata!

Thank you all for weighing in!


I assumed that this is an enchantment/compulsion spell-like ability like hideous laughter, however the player (you know who you are!) is adamant that Laughing Touch works completely differently. He suggests that it is not an enchantment/compulsion effect at all but rather is a burst of unadulterated feyness which stimulates a response somehow to laugh...Not sure how or why my animated object with no physiology, immunity to mind affecting and no int should be subject to this...

Any thoughts?