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I think we can all agree to disagree we all have our different opinions.

First, there is a huge difference between abusing animals in a fictional game and abusing them in the real world. Even if RD was abusing them in the fictional world (I'm not saying he was, I'm saying if) that does not mean he promotes or defends actual abuse of animals. Let's make that clear.

Secondly, a link is vastly different than causation. There's a link between ice cream sales and violent crime, that doesn't mean one causes the other. (Heat causes ice cream sales and tempers to flare.)

Third, characters in this game do plenty of despicable actions already, many of which are far worse than (possible) animal abuse. (Genocide anyone?)

Fourth, I've never heard anyone who didn't play D&D go "You D&D players push horses down elevator shafts, you're evil and I'm going to talk bad about you." Actions outside of the game is what effect our hobby's reputation, not actions inside the game.

Every group has what they will and will not allow. If this type of use of the mount spell (or summons) offends your sensibilities, ban it. If you're not DM, talk to your DM. There is no reason for someone to be offended and uncomfortable while playing a game of make believe. There's plenty in the real world to make us offended and uncomfortable.

I to like your style

So. Using animals deaths to prolong the survival of humans. You think it's evil.

Me, I eat meat. I wear leather shoes. I wear a leather belt. Same thing really.

If this is a problem there are a lot of druids that are in trouble for not starving their non-herbivorous 3+ int animal companions to death.

If the flag post command had an option for mortal insults based on dietary habits I'd be using it, but it doesn't.

I almost found it convincing but if say another race did this to humans what would you say then?

You could think of it as preventing humanoid abuse. If no traps get the horse than want's the big deal? If some traps get the horse then you just saved some humanoid's from them. Really the ethical badness goes to the people that set the trap that were meant to cause harm ether way.

I like your style

Jack Meow wrote:

No it just insulting that people think there is a cute little cuddly gray area between the two where you get to send an animals to fight to the deathand think its ok.

It's the same as the difference between a nation enlisting soldiers to fight in a war and a nation sending waves of children across the battlefield to set off mines Jack.

That's the difference.

Most people see that.

That both action wrong just one is accepted by society thus people think its ok, you know slavery was ok at point to, so was animal abuse doesn't mean it was right ad.

No it just insulting that people think there is a cute little cuddly gray area between the two where you get to send an animals to fight to the deathand think its ok.

if there is a problem sending a horse running down a hall that may have traps down it then all summoning Druids are shifting to evil alignment as we speak. Summoning bears forced to fight for you is no less evil than making that horse run down a hallway, which I have always found in distaste. Someone is going to argue, oh but that's different, not really your still mistreating the summound animal and your doing it for purely selfish reasons to survive.