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Remco Sommeling wrote:

A few thoughts :

The nauseated bit is a bit harsh, but it has some decent use outside of combat. Rage, drink a tankard of ale and make a strength check enhanced by a rage power and increased ability without spending rage rounds for example.

Could a barbarian using a light shield, holding a flask of wine in the same hand, drink as a move action and still attack as a standard action while keeping the shield bonus to AC ?

You could get a potion as a move action, make a standard action and drink the potion the next round and make another standard action.

I do not think it is a spectacular ability, but it is not a useless ability it is mostly flavor in my opinion. Fast movement is not a big loss if you go for heavy armor anyway.

You mean is useful for barbarians with 1h-weapons?

That's surely the reason i chose a barbarian as class: fighting with a single 1-h weapon!
It's not like this is a bad idea, but i'd totally prefer a monk Drunken Master for that.

Remco Sommeling wrote:
It is pretty nice for multiclass caster types or other character that can really make standard actions count

That is not a caster, since you can't cast while raging

Remco Sommeling wrote:
I am kinda glad it is not a free potion a round ability actually.

A move action is not free. Anyway it could be a pretty decent ability at early levels, quite useless at high ones. And the "nauseated" thing is a proper drawback.

As i can see, with this rules drinking a potion during an encounter is suicidal.


"Aquabat Flyer wrote:
It has its use, but I don't know if I'd like to trade fast movement for it.

Definetly not, unless you find a way to draw potions/alcoholic drinks as free action (possibly without wasting a talent for that purpose).


Aquabat Flyer wrote:


Well, for one, drinking potions doesn't provoke attacks of opportunity for a raging Drunken Brute (it usually does). Also, they could drink a potion/alcoholic drink they previously had in hand, then use the remaining action to attack or do something else.

Only the first round, so you just get some kind of advantage drinking buff potions. But if you could have held a buff potion before the encounter starts, why you should not have also drunk that?

Aquabat Flyer wrote:
The point is that if you drink, you get this round of rage 'for free' - you don't consume rounds of rage for the day as long as you keep drinking.

But neither you act any way. There's no point in keep drinking and performing no combat actions, during an encounter. Maybe you could use this ability the way HaraldKlak is suggesting, but how many times can you find yourself in that particular situation?

Also, that is not the kind of use i expect to make with a "drunken brute" ability.

Aquabat Flyer wrote:


Can't say for sure, but I don't think so.

As for the drawing from a bandoleer - not RAW, but I'd let my players do that. In any case, the only change I'd allow is to avoid attacks of opportunity.

Damn, ninja'ed. ;-)

Yeah, i've HRed that, but i think that there should be some errata or official FAQ about it.


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I was wondering what should be the point of "drink as a move action" for the Drunken Brute archetype, since you still have to use another move action to draw the potion/alcoholic drink.
Moreover, what's the point in drinking alcoholic drinks, since you'll just keep staying in rage while not performing any action (other than swift, immediate or free)?
Does a drunken brute is supposed to find a way to draw drinks as a free actions, or just to find a way of "acting" as free or swift action?
Maybe the drawing action should be considered part of the "move action" necessary to drink? (by RAW it is not)
Wouldn't be plausible to make a sort of distinction from the action needed to draw items from a bag (in which you should actively search to find an item), and from a pocket or a bandoleer, since i don't believe that a combatant putting a hand in a pocked "lets her guard down" (neither it can be considered "a reckless action")?