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Stephen Radney-Macfarland wrote:

Guns work different. It's not only the truth, it is the goal. They work differently when it comes to proficiency, they work differently when it comes to size, they work differently when it comes to attacks.

There is no such thing as a light firearm, a small rifle is still a two-handed weapon in the hands of a Medium creature (though they do get the penalty for using a weapon not of inappropriate size.

Even with bows, if you reduce the size, they don't become one-handed or light weapons.

Can I ask, then, do they work differently in regards to two-weapon fighting? There are many things which suggest that these "sizes" don't actually mean much. They don't reduce in "size" (2-handed to 1-handed) when reduced to small or tiny. Their damage also doesn't drop when concerning the "pistol whip" deed if small or tiny (you'd better look out for those musket-toting pixie gunslingers).

So do they have different rules for dual-wielding? Is a 1-handed firearm treated as any other 1-handed weapon when using TWF? Or is it different, because if it's the same, then we have a problem.

As it stands, the classic (and iconic) dual-pistol-slinging gunslinger is ridiculous. Not only do you have to pay outlandish prices (something easily houseruled) for your guns by RAW, but with their new "categorization" of guns as "1-handed" or "2-handed" ranged weapons, no gun is considered "light," and therefore all guns that can be used with TWF automatically take the full -4 penalty.

Why? Does that not seem counter-intuitive to the whole point of a gunslinger? Yes, there are arguments that one could make it more like a musketeer or a swashbuckler, but I argue that even with a swashbuckler, you have to be careful about your off-hand weapon if you're going pistol-and-blade. It has to be light, effectively limiting you to daggers and the shortsword.

Even the little coat pistol is considered one-handed. Are guns really so new that even people who train extensively with them, and practice...

The penalty can be largely negated by taking the TWF feat and the Improved TWF feat can't it?

I've been reading on the new version, and it doesn't seem that bad, not anything severely broken, and I'm entertaining the possibility of multiclassing into Gunslinger from Rogue.

Any ideas on feats? I was thinking a TWF rogue would fit perfectly, as the BAB bonus would make melee'ing a bit easier when not wanting to take a round to reload your pistols, plus the damage on sneak attack when flanking.

I have a Rogue Level 5, built into a Skill Monkey/TWF Hybrid. My battle tactics revolve an initial shoot with my handcrossbow, before stealthing and wading into combat for melee. I see a potential problem with AC, but I think deeds and grit can more than make up for any loss, as both are very heavy in the Reflex saves.

Any ideas?

-Isaac