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@ Kayerloth, I believe the poster is asking whether a PC's eidolon with both Incorporealness and Scent could track or detect something in the room while within the wall. Thats correct, but as i wrote, he wants to buff sth. else.


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@ Kayerloth. He wants to buff a incorporeal summoned monster with the feat evolved summoning.


Hi, i am sorry for my bad english, but i hope you will understand my question. One of my players asked me, if his summoned creature with the ability scent

(An eidolon’s sense of smell becomes quite acute. The eidolon gains the scent special quality, allowing it to detect opponents within 30 feet by sense of smell. If the opponent is upwind, the range increases to 60 feet; if downwind, it drops to 15 feet. Strong scents can be detected at twice the normal range. Scent does not allow the eidolon to precisely locate the creature, only to detect its presence. It can detect the direction with a move action. The eidolon can pinpoint the creature’s location if it is within 5 feet. The eidolon can use scent to track creatures.)

can track enemys inside a room, while he is incorporeal inside a wall. I am not sure because the text says:

It can sense the presence of creatures or objects within a square adjacent to its current location, but enemies have total concealment (50% miss chance) from an incorporeal creature that is inside an object. In order to see beyond the object it is in and attack normally, the incorporeal creature must emerge.

I think, that the text implies all kind of senses and implies, that the scent ability is weakend to the adjacent square, but he believes, that it is enough, if the enemy creature is near because his scent is inside the room.

Because i dont have enough experience with pathfinder, i would like from you how it is right. I would be happy to allow him to do that, because it would help them much in their current situation, but i'm not sure if it is right that way.

Thank you, for your help.