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Mon wrote:

Yes, I know this. Sorry, I wasn't clear about what I was asking.

I mean, where does it say that the Eidolon won't be recognizable if conctacted by other means, such as gate?

Ah. You've got me there; I was stretching it a bit. Whether the Summoner recognizes it or not is up to the Summoner's backstory and the DM's discretion, as the rules are silent about what the Summoner knows about the "creature behind the mask" so to speak. Sorry 'bout that.

However, he can't summon the Eidolon with gate because gate would summon the real creature. Even if the DM has stats for the real creature, whatever it is, it wouldn't be the Eidolon.

Thanks for the help. I was not trying to find away around a rule or someway to break something. I just wanted to know

kyrt-ryder wrote:

wraithstrike wrote:

Grog Gross wrote:

Can a summoner use the spell or SLA Gate to bring back a banished or dismissed eilodon?

I think the next day rule is so the Eidolon has a chance to heal up again. Even if you find away around the intent to have him wait a day and call him right back nothing states that he auto-heals.

I don't particularly see the problem Wraithstrike, your comparing getting your Eidolon back to calling a Pit Fiend or Balor (or The Angel that gets 17th level cleric casting)

It(gate) was not intended to bring him back. I think it's also a measure to force the player to be careful with his eidolon. If the player could let him die, and call another one then why do something silly like use life link and lose hit points to keep the eidolon there? If that were the case I would just let him "die", and summon him with gate at full HP.

How am I comparing it to another outsider type?

I was not asking if Gate would bring back An Eidolon if it "died". I was asking if Gate could be use to bring it back if it was the target of the spells Banishment or Dismissal.

Can a summoner use the spell or SLA Gate to bring back a banished or dismissed eilodon?