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Well, can't argue with a response such as that. I apologize for my previous remark.

Is there any mention of rules regarding use of Intimidation (or diplomacy or bluff, for that matter) on players? Is it not allowed?

Taliesin Hoyle wrote:

I read it as legal to use a mercy offensively in this case.

A mercy can remove a condition caused by a curse, disease, or poison without curing the affliction. Such conditions return after 1 hour unless the mercy actually removes the affliction that causes the condition.

The scorpion does not posses the Poisoned condition so It should not be able to have the poison neutralized, Mercy does not give the option to cast the spell Neutralize Poison, it only removes the poisoned condition.

But yes, it can be used to heal the scorpion and cure any condition it has.

This I can see as a valid argument against the case. However, when the DM picks up the rulebook, looks at LoH, as if reading it, and appears to be justified in his claim that LoH can only be used on allies.... I just get all sorts of red flags in my mind.

The sad thing was he then chides the player in that he expects her to know the rules going into a session, in front of everyone else...

I think the dm was wrong, but I think your player was a bit off too.

You can use lay on hands to heal wounds by touch. No mention of enemies or allies at all. No restrictions on targets. However.

The mercy is what he used to neutralize the poison as per neutralize poison. The spell neutralize poison has a saving throw Will to negate the poison suppression. So the scorpion wouldn't have been immune, however it would have had a save against the effect. Not to mention getting healed a bunch from the lay on hands.

The healing aspect really wasn't my question, as a full health scorpion has nothing to benefit from an LoH anyway. I was only asking if it was possible to use the ability in the first place.

Last night a player I know came across giant scorpion in a session. In a stroke of creativity, she used her paladin's lay on hands to neutralize the scorpion's poison at the source via the mercy that acts as a neutralize poison.

However, the GM pulls out the rule book, and begins to look at it, and declares that a LoH cannot be used on hostile targets, only allies. Is this right?

I suppose I'm making too big a deal of this for myself. If the DM okays it, who am I to argue?

I was playing as a shapeshifter-archetype ranger in a campaign last night. When I was looking at my options for optimizing my character for his natural weapons, I was looking into some way of enchanting or beefing up his ability to deal damage outside of taking precious feat slots.

A few options came to mind -- somehow get the ability to use a wand of permanency and then greater magic fang myself, get an amulet of natural weapons, etc.

However, a fellow that's been playing for quite some time throws out the concept that natural weapons can be enchanted just like manufactured weapons.

First of all, as much as I'd like the idea of my natural weapons getting boons like that for story AND mechanical reasons, how would anyone come to this conclusion? It doesn't seem to appear in the pathfinder core rulebook. Is this some older ruling in a 3.0-3.5 D&D ruleset, or an allowance made by a DM simply because it was never detailed?

All in all, it sounds very strange.