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I read earlier today that it was currently impossible to sanctify arcane spells.

I'd like for us to put it to the test; can we find a way?

What are some odd or interesting game mechanic interactions or team interactions between characters that were clearly unintended but still work out to interesting ends?

Is there a feat combo or two rules subsystems that might not have been considered by the developers?

I'll start with one that I just learned of:

Animal companions and mundane steeds cannot use non-land speeds when mounted, unless they have the Mount ability.

However, using Athletics to Climb or Swim is not using a Climb or Swim Speed.

Therefore, you can spend a single action to command your steed to make two Climb or Swim checks, quite possibly with a higher Athletics modifier than your character possesses. Furthermore, you don't need to have your hands free, since it's your mount that's doing the climbing, leaving you to shoot your bow or cast your spells.

Another, more commonly known one, is casting aqueous orb followed by laughing fit to kill an enemy via the drowning and suffocating rules.

It is also amazing how many very important objects can fit into a bag of weasels. A fistful of sand, for example. Makes 500 toads seem like child's play.

Does the automaton's energy beam do double damage on a critical hit? Or just the persistent damage?

Can I add armor property runes, like the shadow rune, to non-armors such as the explorer's outfit, gi, or scroll robes?

I thought there was a rule specifically calling them out as not being armor (and thus ineligible), but I can't seem to find it now.

At the levels in which you get ability increases, I allow my players to reset their attribute modifiers so that at each interval of 5 levels, they always have the best stats, with no "useless floaters." They can't have +4 Strength and +0 Intelligence at level 1, then swap to +0 Strength and +4 Intelligence at level 5, but I do let them tweak the numbers a bit so that there's no useless floater to worry about at any level. I think it's a pretty good house rule that prevents a lot of "feels bad" moments of character building and remains balanced since it always falls within the bounds of normal character builds.

What are some potential unseen ramifications of such a house rule?

Should the Shisk Lore feat give Additional Lore four times, similar to the other Ancestral Lore feats post Remaster?

If someone makes a single basic save against a single source that deals two or more types of damage, at what point does the division or multiplication of damage apply? Do you round down the sum of damage, or for each type of damage?

Take the kineticist's lava leap, for example: it does 1d6 bludgeoning damage and 2d6 fire damage in an area with a basic Reflex save. If the kineticist rolls 3 bludgeoning and 7 fire damage (10 total) and the target succeeds on their save, taking half, do they take 1 bludgeoning and 3 fire (only 4 damage), or should they take some combination of 5 damage?

Sword and board fighters were already fighting an uphill battle for the role of tank with the Champion class around. Now that we have the Guardian class too, is there really any point in trying to tank as a fighter over going for one of those two classes, or an entirely different role (such as a two-handed reach bruiser or archer)?

Mind you, I don't think we should take Shield Block away from Fighters or anything like that; I rather kind of like that they are so versatile.

I'd like to hear your thoughts.

Razmiran Priest Dedication says the following:

You can take the Cleric Dedication feat without needing to meet its prerequisites and before you take two other feats from the Razmiran priest archetype, but you must choose Razmir as your deity. All spells granted by the cleric archetype when gained in this way are occult spells instead of divine spells, and cleric feats that normally have the divine trait instead have the occult trait. Your key spellcasting attribute for these spells is Charisma, rather than Wisdom.

Does it mean I pull my cleric spells from the occult tradition list? Or that I pull my cleric spells from the divine tradition list and treat them as though they were occult?

If a given game rule says to add extra distance to your Leap, but doesn't reference High Jump or Long Jump, does that bonus also apply to High Jumps and Long Jumps, since they are also considered Leaps?

I'm curious to know; for those of you who use Free Archetype in your games, do you allow your players to double up on feats if they choose? That is, take more feats from a single archetype than normally would be possible without Free Archetype in effect. Why or why not?

For example, one of your players wants to play a monk with the wrestler archetype, which has several feats available at each level. Starring at 4th level, your player takes a wrestler feat as normal for Free Archetype, but then also chooses another wrestler feat in lieu of a monk feat. In fact, from then on, they choose only wrestler feats when possible, effectively making them twice the wrestler than would normally be possible.

If you enforce the duality of Free Archetype, why? If you allow for doubling up, do you have any concerns that it might get out of hand in some way?

Casting the spell makes you automatically undetected...so why does it let you make a Hide check with a bonus? What's the point? You're already undetected.

The receptacle can store up to 1 Bulk of potions and elixirs, but no other items.

Ten light items count as 1 Bulk, and you round down fractions (so 9 light items count as 0 Bulk, and 11 light items count as 1 Bulk).

Therefore the exemplar's Horn of Plenty can hold 19 light elixirs or potions.

If you believe differently, I'd like to hear your take on it (and why you believe such).

What does your exemplar put in their horn of plenty and why?

I am making a cook exemplar and am looking for fun ideas.

If my exemplar is wielding a staff in two hands, it does d8 damage. If I then follow up a successful two-handed strike with Strike, Breathe, Rend, does it do d8 damage, or d4?

Seems too bad to be true if it is stuck at d4.

I never see anyone ever take the daze cantrip due to its lack of damage and commonly resisted damage type. It has almost nothing going for it. It being nonlethal might be the only advantage it has over other cantrips, but it's found lacking in almost every other respect.

I'm considering powering it up a bit and wanted to get some second opinions on my idea.

I'm considering removing the Manipulate trait, maybe even add the Subtle trait, and adding some additional verbiage making it clear that it is a purely mental action and therefore can be performed even while bound or paralyzed.

Damage and other parameters would remain the same. I feel this would make it much more valuable in specific cases, giving it a place in caster repertoires, while not impinging upon other cantrip options.

What are the awesome and funny victories your PCs have had?

For us, it was defeating the overpowered psychotic sorcereress by pushing a folding boat out of a tower window to crash down on her head several floors below.

Another one was defeating a reoccurring villain who, when defeated, would melt and drain away only to reappear stronger than ever in the next campaign arc. The third time we beat him and he began his transformation, one of the players was quick to shout "Quick! Get out the bread!" We mopped up the villain with an absorbent loaf of bread, then stuck it in an air tight jar until he suffocated and died.

An older encounter involved a green dragon that completely thrashed the whole party, only to have one PC's underleveled NPC cohort crit with a frost bow, dealing enough damage to trigger massive damage and kill the dragon outright.

Got a bit of pushback from a player today. They're kineticist used sanguivolent roots for the first time. When they described the ability to me, I said "if it's alright with you, I'm going to roll damage once and apply the result to everyone in the area so as to keep things moving along quickly." I didn't think this would be an issue since this is pretty much what myself and every GM I've known has done for area effects since time immemorial.

The player insisted that I rolled individually, since that would increase the odds of higher healing for the party and that, though my house rule would be more expedient, it would greatly devalue an ability they had invested in and actively weaken the party. After reading the ability more closely, and seeing verbiage that implied rolling damage separately for individual targets, I acquiesced and we got on with the game

It got me thinking about area damage effects and whether the expected norm is rolling damage once, or rolling for each target in the area. I'm sure there are examples on both end of the spectrum.

What is the expected norm? Do you follow that norm, or play it differently? What are some examples that follow the expected norm, or go against it?

We've had a runesmith in our Saturday game for a while now. He frequently places the Zohk rune on my rogue.

For several sessions I thought that I only benefitted from the speed boost when I moved toward the runesmith. Since many of our encounters took place in dungeons and similar tight spaces and we're not spread out, I'm rarely able to take advantage beyond its teleportation ability (which has helped us escape bad rooms more than once).

The target gains a +15-foot status bonus to their Speeds, but only when their movement would end closer to you than they started their turn.

This morning, I was reading the ability, and came to the realization that it doesn't say I have to move toward the Runesmith to get the speed bonus; I just need to end my movement closer to him than I started.

Suddenly, I'm running PAST and AROUND the runesmith to reach an enemy in a single stride that would otherwise take two strides. It gets even better if the movement is totaled then checked, rather than checked for each action. I've been able to run AWAY from the rune smith, round a corner, and into a different room to engage enemies there just because the runesmith ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WALL is positionally closer to me than when I started.

It is SO much more versatile than I originally gave it credit for.

Is this really the way it is intended to work? Am I missing anything?

How might you best take advantage of such a boon?

I seem to recall that a recently released source book allowed an easy way to become sanctified. However I cannot for the life of me remember what that method was.

So...what methods do you know of to get sanctified? Help me jump-start my old brain.

The armored skirt description confuses me and appears it is in desperate need of errata.

What does my half plate stats become when I incorporate an armored skirt? Is the following correct?

Price 20 gp; AC Bonus +4; Dex Cap +2; Check Penalty -2; Speed Penalty -5 ft. Strength +1; Bulk 4; Category Heavy; Group Plate; Traits Noisy

There is nothing anywhere in the game, insofar as I'm aware, that states that your character gets clothes for free. For years now, my fellow players and I have been purchasing mundane clothes for our adventurers. However, when I look at humanoid monsters and NPC stat blocks, I almost never see clothes mentioned among their gear. Same appears to be true with prefab characters in Society play as well. Come to think of it, I don't believe I've ever seen mundane clothes mentioned in online player builds and the like.

This leads me to the natural assumption that adventurers all across Golarion are nudists. Naturally. ;P

Do you and your table(s) ever concern yourself with such things? Or do you all just assume your characters have a basic outfit and anything purchased are specialized, magical, or spare outfits?

EDIT: Posting here 'cause Reddit doesn't know how to have fun little tongue-in-cheek discussions.

Reworking an old diviner.

How might I build out a "Seer" concept in Pathfinder 2e? That is, someone with the gift of foresight and/or the ability to accurately predict outcomes.

I'd prefer an arcane caster, such as a wizard, but I'm not dead set on that if something fits the concept particularly well.

Anyone have any good suggestions for mechanical options that might work to that end?

If I have a caster standing in a dispelling globe and an enemy tosses a fireball or ignition against him, it is likely to get dispelled.

But what if the caster inside the globe steps outside of it, while keeping it in between him and his foe. Does his foe have line of effect? Does he still need to contend with the counterspell effect? Does fireball simply work since, unlike previous editions, there is no magical bead streaking across the intervening space? What if the enemy attempted something like stupefy?

Do spells that simply emerge or target directly still need to contend with obstacles, barriers, and line of effect / line of sight?

Can clerics and other divine casters of Zon-Kuthon cast the heal spell?

One of Zon-Kuthon's anathemas is "provide comfort to those who suffer" which gives me pause.

I was hoping to prepare the spell on a Kuthite character for use in prolonging the suffering of torture victims that would otherwise die, but I'm not sure if that would really fly.

What do you guys think? Can Kuthite priests cast heal and/or use other restoratives during the course of their grisly work? Are they not allowed to use Battle Medicine even on themselves?

I am updating an old character to Remaster rules and noticed that AoN still lists spell immunity as being in the Core Rulebook. Is there a replacement spell for spell immunity in the Remaster?

If you buy a magical weapon with fundamental runes, the cost of the weapon is subsumed in the cost of the runes.

Is the same true for armor? I don't recall.

It's generally understood that if you fail a check to Recall Knowledge, you can't keep making checks to learn more information with that skill (sorry I couldn't find the source to quote it). But what if you have multiple related lore skills, such as Giant Lore and the more specific Troll Lore? Can you make new checks using the other lore skill after you've failed the other?

You know basic facts off the top of your head. Choose a skill you’re an expert in that has the Recall Knowledge action and for which you have the Assurance feat. You can use the Recall Knowledge action with that skill as a free action once per round. If you do, you must use Assurance on the skill check.

Does anyone actually take, much less use the above feat?

It's nice to be able to get a free RK check when your lore comes up, but um, how often will it really matter the round after that, or the round after that?

The primary benefit of being able to use it every round as a free action seems, well, like it wouldn't come up very often. As written it just doesn't seem like it's likely to be applied practically.

Say I have Zon-Kuthon lore on my total edgelord character. Does he just not shut up ever about his dark lord? XD

Is there anything in the Remaster that duplicates the effects of the classic ring of wizardry, or perhaps comes close to it?

So if I blast a swam with an area effect that does 2 or more types of damage, does it take its area weakness damage 2 or more times?

Page 10: Update the first paragraph under Psychic Spellcasting.

“You access the vast well of power that resides within your own mind, calling forth psychic magic with nothing but thought and will. You are a spellcaster and can cast occult spells using the Cast a Spell activity (Pathfinder Player Core 299). You don’t need to utter incantations to cast your spells, instead exerting your mind toward your intended effect as described in your subconscious mind class feature. Your spells still have clear and noticeable visual and auditory manifestations, as normal for a spellcaster.”

Does this mean psychics can cast freely underwater without having to give up all their held breath?

Page 401 (Clarification): What happens to abilities that depend on your roll when you set your die to a certain result instead of actually rolling? Typically, it still counts as a roll for abilities that trigger off your roll.

For example, if you used Assurance to automatically get a result of 10 + your proficiency bonus and it would be a success, an ability that applies to that skill and says “when you roll a success, you get a critical success instead” would still upgrade your result to a critical success. Though this general rule should apply most of the time, a GM might rule otherwise in certain circumstances based on the specific abilities and their themes.

How can we best take advantage of the above clarification to ensure many, many automatic critical successes (or positive shifts) with our characters?

Let's brainstorm some fun combos!

If a thaumaturge has a weapon implement in one hand, and a single one-handed weapon in the other, can they benefit from Implement’s Empowerment with the latter?

The way I see it, there are two possible interpretations:

1) It works, because they have a single one-handed weapon and the empowering implement. All conditions are met.

2) It doesn't work, because they have two one-handed weapons, not a single one. One of the conditions has been violated.

What do you think and why?

I'm thinking of creating a high level spell that freezes or compresses time, allowing the caster and a chosen target within range to converse with impunity. I hope to get some ideas and suggestions on how best to implement such a spell.

Some thoughts:
- Target gets a will save to negate, but is aware of the spell's effects and may voluntarily accept a failure result.
- Caster and target actions will be extraordinarily limited during the apparant duration, such as only being able to take purely mental actions and verbal actions. Absolutely no physical actions, spellcasting, manipulating the environment, or harmful actions can be taken while the spell is in effect.
- The spell could be entirely mental, plunging caster's and target's minds into a psychic black void completely cut off from the outside world. Sort of like Stranger Things.
- The spell is instantaneous to outside observers, but will have an apparent duration of no less than 10 minutes to those effected, after which the duration can be extended indefinitely so long as all parties wish to keep it going. Targets cannot prematurely end the effect during the initial duration unless they succeeded on their initial save and chose to be effected by the spell's effects. The caster can end the spwll's effect at any time.
- Higher spell ranks allow the caster to attempt pulling more people in, though the target size remains small (2-5 additional targets I'm thinking). Furthermore, a higher rank might allow the caster to eject participant(s) from the spell effect prematurely.
- Leaning towards 8th or 9th rank, with 10th rank allowing more targets.

What do you think? How might such a spell potentially be abused?

Prove your potential to Kurgess? LOLWUT?

What is going on with the official Rules Archives? Why can't I access it all of a sudden?

Hey everyone,

I’ve been digging into Razmiran lore lately and ran into a question I can’t quite pin down with certainty: Do Razmiran priests genuinely believe in their own divinity and in the supposed godhood of Razmir himself?

On paper, Razmir’s entire nation is built on a lie and plenty of sources make it clear that high-ranking clergy know this. But what I’m curious about is the internal culture of belief among Razmiran’s priesthood:

Do most priests know it’s a hoax, or is that knowledge limited to the top tiers?

Are low-ranking acolytes indoctrinated from the start to truly believe they serve a living god?

How much self-deception exists within the hierarchy? Are there priests who choose to believe because the alternative undermines their identity or power?

And lastly, do some priests genuinely believe they themselves possess divine authority derived from Razmir, even if they don’t consciously buy into his supposed godhood?

There’s a lot of room for interpretation here, especially given how propaganda-heavy and cult-like Razmiran society is, but I’d love to hear how others have handled this in their games or how you read the canon lore.

Looking forward to your thoughts!

There is no archmage archetype, prestige class, subclass, or feats insofar as I'm aware. Just a couple themed items, such as the archmage's regalia and robe of the archmagi.

So, if you want to play as an archmage*, then how might you go about doing it?

No homebrew rules or third party content suggestions please.

If you were in a position in which you needed to jump a distance, but did not have the use of your feet (such as when dangling by your hands), how do the rules expect us to run that or, in the absence of such rules, how might you expect to run this corner case?

I'm imagining something like a rock climber hanging from the underside of a rock overhang by their hands and needing to jump to a nearby cliff face. Like in those Tom Cruise movies (Or maybe it was Sylvester Stallone? Whatever.) or any number of video games with widely spread "jungle gym" elements.

When I tried to leave a product review, I couldn't find any links or options to do so.

There doesn't seem to be anything on the product pages or on my account pages that would allow for me to leave a review.

I want to be heard. Where is this capability? I see mention of other reviews (though clicking on them doesn't reveal any of their contents) so I know it's possible to do.

What am I missing?

Does the mirrored aegis immanence grant allies in the aura the +1 status bonus to AC?

Or is the reference to protecting your allies just referring to the transcendence effect from Raise the Walls?

What simple weapons are there, that are not deific favored weapons?

I want a rarely picked simple weapon so my exemplar can make it more advanced. ;)

The feat says, "While using Survival to Subsist, if you roll any result worse than a success, you get a success. On a success, you can provide subsistence living for yourself and four additional creatures..."

Does this mean that rolling a failure always allows me to provide sustenance for myself and four others?

And if so, are there other abilities with similar wording that might be adversely affected if the same logic is applied to them?

Magical ammunition says "Once you activate the ammunition, you must shoot it before the end of your turn. Otherwise, it deactivates (but it isn't consumed) and you must activate it again before you can use it."

However, I can find no such limitation for alchemical ammunition, such as with elemental ammunition.

Does this mean I could fill each of my slide pistol barrels with different elemental ammunition, activate them all right away, and then keep them activated and ready to fire for a rainy day?

If the rule exists, can you help me find it?

I've attempted to make several exemplar characters since the class' release, and I've found that in almost every instance, another class does it better.

Exemplar with a rifle? Gunslinger has better action economy and raw numbers.
Exemplar archer? Ranger does it better.
Melee exemplar? Barbarian and fighter topple it easily.
Bag of tricks exemplar? Bard and rogue have WAY more options available.

Every concept (more than those shown above) that I've come up with has failed to find a niche that some other class didn't fulfill better in almost every way.

So, what then, is the exemplar class supposed to be doing? It has a strong conceptual niche, but it's mechanical niche--whatever that's supposed to be--seems more and more lacking to me.

What are your thoughts on the class' role and abilities?

I'm trying to build a cut-above-the-rest mana waste mutant (mutated fleshwarp exemplar) that wields a two-handed firearm to devastating effect.

However, I'm having trouble deciding on what Exemplar options to take. Does anyone have any advice on how to make an effective ranged Exemplar build?

Enhanced familiar says "You can select four familiar or master abilities each day, instead of two." For witches it then goes on to say "Add the bonus familiar abilities you gain for being a witch to this amount."

So if I'm playing a 6th-level witch, my familiar would have...

2 base abilities that all familiars get
1 patron themed ability
1 bonus ability at 1st
1 bonus ability at 6th

For a total of 5 familiar abilities.

If said witch took Enhanced Familiar, then at 6th level the familiar would have...

2 base abilities that all familiars get
5 bonus abilities from Enhanced Familiar (2 base + 3 more equaling witch bonus abilities)
1 patron themed ability
1 bonus ability at 1st
1 bonus ability at 6th

For a total of 10 familiar abilities.

Is that right? Seems like a pretty meager feat if not.

You’ve researched many faiths enough to recognize notions about them that are unlikely to be true. If you roll a critical failure at a Religion check to Decipher Writing of a religious nature or to Recall Knowledge about the tenets of faiths, you get a failure instead. When attempting to Recall Knowledge about the tenets of your own faith, if you roll a failure, you get a success instead, and if you roll a success, you get a critical success instead.

If I have, say, Asmodeus Lore, Devil Lore, Hell Lore, or some similar lore of a religious nature, do I benefit from the last sentence of Student of the Canon when making said lore checks? Unlike the second sentence, the third and final sentence has no qualifiers such as using the Religion skill.