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Honestly, the BBEG i just made up on the fly. I was planning on reskinning a pretty tough demon or something. I explained that he is gaining power by absorbing souls but he is new to this current dimension so he's still out there on the front lines absorbing souls personally. I described him and his baddies as a cross between Dread Wraiths and Dementors from Harry Potter. Lol.


All of these are awesome ideas guys. The BBEG already made an appearance of course, and I just made something vague about him holding everyone in place so they couldn't even move. Similar to Leitner's Mass Hold idea. But since my PC's are considerably higher levels since BBEG's first appearance I was going to at least let my PC's have a little more of a fighting chance.
lemeres, I like the sacrifice idea. Our last session everyone wanted to play with the Deck of Many Things and the one tank got thrown in jail. I was thinking BBEG could also make an appearance there as they're trying to make their escape.
Val'bryn2, knowing my friends, something like that would just get them excited and try to fight the REAL BBEG immediately. Lol.


Hey everyone. I'm currently DMing for a group that is convinced they're ready to take on the Big Bad of this campaign in spite of being lvl 12ish. So how could I make it a kinda story driven failure without literally having them all die. Similar to how some video games will have no chance of ever beating a specific boss in order to drive some sort of plot hook. I'm having a little trouble not being a jerk about it. Lol. Thanks in advance.