Cayden Cailean

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thanks guys:)

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Hey all, I'm running an adventure at the moment, and my PC's are falling a bit behind the level, and hence are having a lot of trouble with the spell resistance heavy campaign so we've decided to knock the up three levels or so, so we can all really enjoy the end, what kind of reason would you give to there sudden power boost?

Thanks for any help! :D

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Hey people:)

So, me and my PC's have got together and agreed that: They haven't created the most adventure path friendly characters, what with one of them having a character the has something like + 30 in stealth, can turn invisible and can either a: deal horrific amounts of damage when surprising and has on ocassion one shot boss's. or b: when not surprising has thrown a few knives at someone and on a lucky day done about 7-8 damage?

And yeah she also sneaks wherever I really don't want her to.

Also each and everyone of my PC's are always asking me incredibly difficult questions to answer when I don't own all the back story books like Elves of Golarion.

Anyway I'm also at fault as I've screwed up the leveling rate with this AP as somehow I've embedded in my mind that it should be several sessions in between leveling up and hence my PC's have fallen drastically behind. (3 levels >.<)

Oh right...

Sorry for the rambling, long story short me and my players have contributed to making a bumpy, weird, messy, insane, (but fun) Adventure and we all agree that we want to make it go out with a bang (This doesn't have to mean a star falling on there heads >.<) cause they like there characters alot, and some NPC's of mine quite a bit aswell, and we've had some great times:)

So this great explosion of awesomeness I am planning needs to involves the players have a point where they can gain three levels at once, (yes a sudden level raise) So we can all really enjoy the last adventure, how would you go about giving an excuse for the to have a sudden rapid gain in ability before the last adventure?

Urgh sorry for the long post, btw We've almost finish a memory of darkness and its descent into midnight that we're planning to be so awesome:D

Thanks so much! you all rock!

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Cool thanks for the insights!

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As I always had Kaerishiel (probably miss-spelled) and Shalelu along with the PC's through a large portion of the adventure since they met up in crying leaf, I thought I'd obviously bring them onwards in Descent into Midnight, at the beggining the book also states that you can bring Kwava and any other elves the PC's have met through the adventure.

So I'm thinking of instead of sending Ghaele's with the PC's to send along some NPC's from the previous adventures? Kwava Kaerishiel Shalelu? hell maybe even Samaritha though that's stretching, anyone else thought about doing this? or done it?

I'd obviously have to buff up the encounters significantly but it might help my PC's "like" the elves more if they send some help, especially some elves the characters are friends with, I think it'll encourage the PC's :-)

Great adventure!

Looking forward to any replys:)

-feral

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ooooh this looks fun!

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I'm just glad its got going again:) with a good one aswell

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Thanks Majuba!

I certainly didn't mean I didn't enjoy the adventure, its been epic! a great introduction for me and my players in the pathfinder world!

Hopefully I can act the adventure out in a way that everything is the winter councils fault like you've said here, and then my Pc's can have some good fun revenge!

The individual motivations work okay with A memory of darkness cause the Pc's will certainly gain much going to thorns end, and they will enjoy getting rid of a bit of excess anger on the winter council:p

I'm not to worried about the warlock she follows behind the wizard quite happily.

Thank you very much and I'll certainly make sure to inform you all how it turned out:) the next session should be tonight!

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Wow... I actually really really like those ideas!!!

Thanks so much!

I think my Pc's will go along with the elves plan and go after Allevrah quite happily in Descent into Midnight even with Treerazer sitting there!

As for the Cheliax plan I think they'd really like the motivation but to tie it into the story even better I might use Quilindra to be the an agent from Cheliax!

in any case these ideas really helped me thank you very much everyone! :-)

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Thanks for both of your reply's!

I'm going to have a busy week re-reading both books again.
Both of your ideas seem like they might help my players cope with the elves better, but I still need something to encourage them to save the elves.

Thanks again!

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Congratulations!

I really like "Zoey"

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Hi Charles, thanks for the reply:)

We actually did a session earlier today and It ended with them entering the deep gate to Kyonin.

My players told me that they were actually going along with the adventure and rolling with the current motivation just to keep the adventure going cause they were really enjoying it but this is one big problem they had with it, so as all ways I try my best to fix the problem, and make the game the most enjoyable for all of us.

My real worry is that the elves aren't actually being really nice and grateful to the Pc's, I think they'll kind of finally snap when the get attacked by the elves in A Memory of darkness.

And when they have the interview with the queen I think they'll get really annoyed at that adviser guy (forgot his name)

Generally they are actually really annoyed at the fact that why aren't the elves doing this all themselves? why didn't Kyonin teleport in several high level elves to smash the drow in Celwnyvian? why didn't they send more high level elves into Zirnakynin? and eventually why aren't the elves going to send in yet more powerful elves into the land of black blood?

They will help the elves but they really need something to encourage themselves to do so. . .

I hope I clarified it some more and I really appreciate the help:)

-Feral

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Hello everyone, this is my first post in the Paizo messageboards although I have been a long time observer:)
You all seem like a great community and my players have informed me of an issue they had with the game and I'm really not sure what to do.
So I came here, to the great community of Paizo to aid me!

My problem: I'm up to the last stretch of Endless night (and thoroughly enjoying it, and my players have said they are too!) but after one session my players informed me that they didn't think the supplied motivation agreed with there characters.

I certainly wouldn't call them mercenary type pc's, but they do like to do stuff that helps them, there favorite adventure so far has been Children of the void where they enjoyed that they had the clear goal and self benefiting aspect of gathering the Noqoul and the two side goals involving there close friends: Kwava, who had asked them to tell him if they found any drow activity on the island. and Samaritha who they enjoyed saving and getting her and the other cypher mages to safety.

A few other aspects they enjoyed were: The blot in Shadow in the sky, they really enjoyed studying it and finding out what it was, and later they also enjoyed figuring out the Armageddon echo.

A few things about the individual pc's and what motivations they have liked,

The fighter: The groups toughy but also an alchemist and scholar with a drug addled past, she liked studying the blot like the others but has really hated her time in the underdark, (the player has enjoyed it but she's roleplaying) to Summarize she likes knowledge, books, killing things, but she is also kind and probably is the only Pc who would really help the elves out of the kindness of there hearts.

The Wizard: The groups crazy spellcasters, she loved studying the blot, and the echo, and finding the noqual, and enchanting everyone's gear, and making scrolls and wands, she was a bit disapointed with the lack of downtime in the later adventures, cause she wants to create stuff (so I'm going to make sure to include a larger rest period in Kyonin)
To summarize with her she likes the whole knowledge aspect and is essentially after learning how to destroy the world in the most ways possible.

The Warlock: she grew up with the wizard (although there not related)
and they are very close, the warlock generally follows around the wizard and is the mature practical one who keeps the wizard's schemes from becoming too crazy.

And finally the Assassin: She hails from the royal courts of Cheliax and is really flirtatious, she generally goes her own way around the city (or wherever they are) and makes her way back to the party after accomplishing whatever it is she wanted to do, she enjoys meeting especially hot npc's and sneaking around in the area she thinks I don't want her to go most.

So that was quite a complicated thing to write (and hence probably hard to read too, which I apologize for) and I also realize I didn't mention the motivation which the pc's didn't agree with, Ie the one your basically following the whole adventure: Save the elves.

The pc's have grown very close to Kwava Shalelu and Kaerishiel, but still they think theyed enjoy it a lot more with a solid motivation that works with there characters, I know this is a rather hard question which is really why I brought it to these boards to see what you have all done to motivate your pc's!

I really really appreciate any help you great people can give me!

Thanks again!

-Feral