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Mark Seifter wrote:

It is akin to, but actually not as big as the whole "I built my armored character's Dex to work well with full plate's max Dex but I am 1st level and can't afford full plate yet, just chain mail."

Let's not get into Zen Archer "Wow I have this great WIS-to-attack ability, I should really build around that, but it comes online at 3rd level..."

Don't really get the hysteria myself, a STR build will always be a few points behind DEX build in AC... Shocker?
It sounds like the fiddly numbers will be easily tweaked from playtest data simply by moving proficiencies around by level.
(if anything it sounded like Monks were a bit too tough in AC department, shrugging off 'should kill them' CR encounters)

Don't make the zen archers cry, Quandary. My first adventure was First Steps: Part 1, and I didn't own a bow. I used unarmed strikes with my 14 Strength. It got worse when the group sent me into the <redacted> to scout and I wound up having to fight all the <redacted> alone with my fists.

Also, you almost got my stats down exactly, but I went 12 Con to have more Int and Cha!

Fasch wrote:

deusvult wrote:

Fasch wrote:

What!? How could someone even think of doing something like this?

In the case of assuming the identity of iconics or Venture Captains, I'd agree. That's not cool, but it's only my opinion and I'm curious what other people think, or even if they do it.

OTOH, I do kind of like the idea of minor NPCs "jumping" into the realm of PC shenanigans. How cool would it be to see Janira Gavix at your table, and get to see something other than that perpetual cycle of running from a minotaur added to your experience of her story? So long as the player isn't insisting on using that character in The Confirmation, obviously. Likewise it might be cool to see some minor villain from a scenario turn up. I have a character who helped turn in Celeena Deckland from The Infernal Vault in to justice. Her punishment was forced marriage to my (highly uncouth) barbarian. Hell, how much fun would it be to start a new character as Celeena, formerly of House Deckland? :D

To explain the joke, Fasch is one of the random throw-away example NPCs in City of Strangers that the GM can choose to use when the PCs are gathering information.

And Fasch is awesome. Would not have guessed Zen archer though...

The character I had thought to use was Deris Marlinchen from Black Waters as a Spiritualist, but ultimately decided against it. I suppose I still could come August, but I'd want to put GM credit from his scenario on him, which would take a star at this point.

For minor NPCs I don't see it as too much of an issue. As a hypothetical though, what do you tell people who show up at your table playing a character who killed the NPC your character is based off of? I feel like there'd be a lot of fumbling around in cases of "shared history."

After she tried to pick his pocket and he caught her and got some info, the Cheliax faction zen archer in my run of City of Strangers spent significant personal gp to pay a caravan to take Fasch to the monastery in Cheliax where he himself had trained. So I said to him "I was planning on testing an archer soon anyway. I'll just play Fasch the zen archer as my next character."

Fasch wrote:

What!? How could someone even think of doing something like this?

In the case of assuming the identity of iconics or Venture Captains, I'd agree. That's not cool, but it's only my opinion and I'm curious what other people think, or even if they do it.

OTOH, I do kind of like the idea of minor NPCs "jumping" into the realm of PC shenanigans. How cool would it be to see Janira Gavix at your table, and get to see something other than that perpetual cycle of running from a minotaur added to your experience of her story? So long as the player isn't insisting on using that character in The Confirmation, obviously. Likewise it might be cool to see some minor villain from a scenario turn up. I have a character who helped turn in Celeena Deckland from The Infernal Vault in to justice. Her punishment was forced marriage to my (highly uncouth) barbarian. Hell, how much fun would it be to start a new character as Celeena, formerly of House Deckland? :D

To explain the joke, Fasch is one of the random throw-away example NPCs in City of Strangers that the GM can choose to use when the PCs are gathering information.

What!? How could someone even think of doing something like this?

In my Eyes of the Ten group we defeated the final boss with no casualties in part because of a caster making it possible for the damage to hit the boss. It was also the casters who did the majority of the tanking.

I took a bunch of hits too, and I think I took all the hits from the final boss and managed to stay standing (barely)! Strangely, Kadrim, the only melee in our quartet, may have been attacked the fewest times in the series. But he made up for it by taking enormous amounts of punishment in...well, just about every other adventure I can remember, including that diamond siege thing. No disagreement on you and Fizzle being crucial to our success, though if anything, I would say Wrath of the Accursed was where you saved all our bacons twice by getting me to where I could shoot them, saving me maybe two or three rounds in each battle during which the enemy's next spells would have certainly killed at least Amiri.

Then again, I was the monk carrying around that scroll of breath of life as the most able person to activate it (+24 UMD go!), so we weren't exactly your standard group!

As a player of a Zen Archer Venture Captain who's level 13 or something now:

#2 works. #1 does not work because ki arrows replaces the bow's usual damage with the unarmed strike damage, so enhancing the bow's damage is irrelevant. Thus #3 does not work.

However, enlarge person, lead blades, and ki arrows works. My usual favorite was instead enlarge person, gravity bow, prepurchasing size Large arrows, and not using ki arrows at all.

Malik al'Qadim wrote:

Adam Mogyorodi wrote:

Any fire sorcerer would be wise to trade resist fire 5 for Wildfire Heart.

I would go so far as to say you would be foolish not to do so, unless you expect to perish from flames before level 3. Trading nothing for something is not a bargain you should pass up--take that from a merchant!

(OOC: Posting as Malik al 'Qadim, my Ifrit Wishcrafter merchant, for when these all get transformed into my main avatar. Gosh that will make some of my old posts seem very weird!)

Ha! Enjoy your custom avatars while they last Mark! :P

Explain to me again why that Venture Lieutenant of Boston is bad-mouthing Andoran in this thread, claiming to be from Thassilon in that other thread, literally telling people to go with the blessings of Shelyn in that other thread, and talking about being illiterate and a cannibal in that other one. I don't want to meet this guy in real life! Or maybe I do!

"The land itself quivered and shook. Even the skilled and observant rogue and I were unable to predict when the ground would suddenly liquefy and the sky fill with flensing winds in sudden tornados. Geysers of abyssal energy shot forth in torrents. I just grew more and more on edge in that land of chaos. It truly was more horrible than Andoran by far. As if to give rise to a true phantasmagoric avatar of all that represents the most evil and chaotic things in this world, the Worldwound saw fit to expel forth something even more vile than before, like a pustule upon Golarion itself--an Andoren Eagle Knight. If you know anything of my travels and the Pathfinder agents I have met, you won't be surprised that I was on my guard for any attempts of the Andoren woman to devour my comrades. I recommended knocking the Andoren unconscious for safety's sake, but Andoran sympathizers demanded that I leave her alone, despite her obvious malice and the many lies she claimed--as if anyone in the Andoran faction could actually be dependable lawful folk like my many paladin friends in the Silver Crusade and the Lantern Lodge. When we were at our weakest, she struck to devour us all, much to everyone's surprise but my own. I wouldn't take my eyes off her, and I eventually managed to put her down like the nightmarish horror she was. Even so, we needed a breath of life and a lesser restoration plus some luck to save the rogue from her poisonous Andoren evil."

"But our journey through old Sarkoris was just beginning. Another Andoren man appeared, pretending to be a Pathfinder contact. Last time, I let my comrades convince me to stand down against my better judgment, but you don't fool me twice in a row. As they shouted at me to stop, I began to fire nonlethally at the fellow, to prove I was right again. Only this time, it wasn't the rogue who nearly died. The Andoren grinned a wide grin, snarled, and spoke a word of the most utmost evil and chaos so vile it would make even Colson Maldris blanche and second guess his latest assassination order against the people who found out about his most recent politically-damaging extramarital affair. There was literally nothing I could do to resist, despite my Iroran training, as I stood, stunned and helpless. If it weren't for some quick thinking on the parts of my comrades and some frankly head-scratching physics involving the fighters catapulting themselves out of a reverse gravity, I might have been truly bloodied for the first time in my career as a Pathfinder, or even killed."

"The rest would be of little interest to you, I'm sure, but I learned that even those foolish and insane enough to serve Deskari, the master and creator of the Worldwound and the Demon Lord of Crawling Things, are at least sane enough to realize that their souls will experience agony when they die a failure."

"We were able to complete our mission and leave that accursed place. I don't envy anyone the horror of that experience, but I did learn a few things about what the place was like. One thing important--only beings of pure chaos and evil can use dimensional magic reliably there, a fellow Andoren Pathfinder agent tested and being Andoren is not enough. Anyone else will experience chaotic and random results, so don't rely on teleport magic to get you where you need to go."

*Fasch shudders.*

"I've been to the Worldwound. Into old Sarkoris. That place is pure chaos. Everything there is evil and wants to kill you. It's worse than Andoran, though with fewer cannibals. But the demons there are worse and more widespread, even warping the land itself with their chaos. That mission was so not fun. But killing demons is at least a job worth doing. That demon's power word was the only magic that's ever been able to affect my mind--I think it's impossible to resist, but I think we should all beef up on how to counter it if we want to brave the Worldwound further."

and learn some humility while you're at it."

*The young girl with the bow in the corner can't stop laughing long enough to get a word in for at least a solid minute. Finally it subsides.*

"Oh..." she gasps, "Oh. I'm sorry. It's just...Colson...Maldris...teaching...humility"

*She takes a deep breath.*

"Honestly and truthfully, it's only Ms. Zarta who does all that risque stuff, Mr. Renegadeshepherd Guy. If you aren't for bringing law and order, I wouldn't recommend choosing Cheliax for the girls. You might do well with Shadow Lodge, at least while it lasts. Plenty of Calistrians there. Maybe find some Arsheans in the Silver Crusade. They sort of have to find companionship every day."

"As a fan of Irori, Abadar, and all the lawful gods, I'll tell you the truth about any faction, even my own, even if it loses a member for my faction. But whatever you do, don't listen to anyone who tells you Andoran has humility. I only count myself as having one or two friends in the Andoran faction, and we disagree on most things, but what we do agree on is that Andoran and Maldris are #2 in arrogance, after Taldor of course."

Fasch wrote:

*Fasch nods and holds her cup up to the kettle.*

"You're pretty smart. Out on adventures, the Silver Crusade people I've met have seemed pretty reliable and trustworthy, some of the best of the best. I'm not saying you're right, but if you are, some of what I've seen in here today might be giving me second thoughts. I'm being honest with you, despite what Mr. Green Faith guy says, when I tell you what I've seen from Andoran and their lawless and barbaric agents...Maybe Ollysta Zadrian and the people I met in the Silver Crusade who were really nice and reasonable weren't good examples of the organization as a whole and there's really a strong current of people like Mr. Green Faith guy and Mr. Thinks Irori is a Devil Prince guy, so maybe I would not be welcome here.

I had heard there was an agent of Cheliax here spreading foul lies about Andoran, so I came to look in myself. And sure enough here you are. Seriously, you spout off a bunch of hate against Andoran and you expect people to take you seriously. Let me see if I heard correctly.

I heard that you claimed that Major Maldriss gave orders to his agents to engage in cannibalism, if you can provide some proof of this (OOC: like which scenario) I might have to have words with my CO. If you can provide no such proof I must ask you to desist with such lies and slander.

I also heard that you attempted to hold up the Lumber Consortium as good examples of Andorans. As one who has escaped from under the boot heel of the Consortium's oppression I can say that some, though not all by an stretch, of the stories about them are true. Trying to say that they are exemplary citizens of Andoran is a LIE! They are an example of how laws and orderliness can be used as a means to enforce tyranny, a lesson in why the good of the people must come before the order of Law.

To the accusation that we are lawless, I can only proudly claim that I am gladly lawless when the situation calls for it. As for barbarism, last I...

"Ah, it seems that Andoren agents will always come to muck things up eventually. No peace or order can be good enough to last," Fasch sighs, "Did I say Maldris ordered the cannibalism? I told you what I saw Andoran agents doing. That's nothing but the truth. Now what do I know for sure that he ordered? Well, he did order a series of killings, one of which was for no other reason than to protect the details of his extramarital affairs with a married woman that would hurt his political ambitions."

"Anyway, Jedidah, it was good talking to you, and I recognize that I have no right to ask this Andoren to leave here, but I can't stay comfortable knowing that he might have a kill order on me or something. I've seen Andoren agents multiple times with kill orders from Maldris against fellow Pathfinders as long as they aren't on the same mission together necessitating Explore Report Cooperate, which I'm not right now, so I'll just take my leave myself. I take my oath to cooperate more seriously, so I wouldn't be able to fight back."

"As an Andoren, I'm sure you'll want the last word. Do feel free."

*She gives a small bow to those who engaged her respectfully and then takes her leave.*

(OOC: If anyone has Sense Motive, Fasch isn't lying. Andoran faction PCs really did everything she listed here and in her earlier posts. The scenario isn't relevant when it wasn't there faction mission)

Fasch wrote:

Oh I loved that tapestry! So many fun missions--so many secret carvings of different deities. I think it's still there, isn't it? I heard from a friend that Amara Li wants to figure out how to let it be a free teleport to wherever we want for the whole Society. Nice lady that Amara Li.

(OOC: In terms of studying human nature (+18) and perceptiveness (+27) he finds Fasch to be equally adept. She's very interested in the great beyond but most of her information about it are simple folk stories or misremembered snippets that wizards told her (no...

Interesting conversation aside, I can't shake the feeling that you have another motive for visiting the Silver Crusade other than passing along a message from the Decemvirate. I don't think that motive is Society business - perhaps something more personal.

I assume you've heard the rumors of the Decemvirate bein' a might upset with all of the disruptions caused by this faction business. So upset that they're lookin' at expellin' the members of a faction or two to send a message to the others. Some rumors point to those with a strong allegiance to Cheliax being a prime target.

You strike me as a very sharp young lady, with a passion for the Society and its work. Somethin' you would hate to lose access to, should the worst come to pass. I'm thinkin' you might be visiting us to see if we are someone you could work with should that eventuality occur.

Of course its all rumors, and I could be readin' too much in to it all. Wouldn't be the first time. You could just be here for an afternoon of conversation, and a spot of tea. Would you care for more tea?

*Fasch nods and holds her cup up to the kettle.*

"You're pretty smart. Out on adventures, the Silver Crusade people I've met have seemed pretty reliable and trustworthy, some of the best of the best. I'm not saying you're right, but if you are, some of what I've seen in here today might be giving me second thoughts. I'm being honest with you, despite what Mr. Green Faith guy says, when I tell you what I've seen from Andoran and their lawless and barbaric agents...Maybe Ollysta Zadrian and the people I met in the Silver Crusade who were really nice and reasonable weren't good examples of the organization as a whole and there's really a strong current of people like Mr. Green Faith guy and Mr. Thinks Irori is a Devil Prince guy, so maybe I would not be welcome here."

Fasch wrote:

Ohmygosh I'd love some tea! I wouldn't want to be a drain on your resources though, since I'm not a faction member. Let me offer something in return--I'll get some of the rare tea I found in an abandoned Tien monastery in the mountains--there's not much left, as I shared what I didn't send Ms. Zarta with all the other Pathfinders so they could impress the Tien nobility when they needed, but it seems only right, as a fellow brother of your Silver Crusade is the one who helped me in the first place to pick out the best leaves of the bunch to take back!

*Fasch reaches into her pouch and takes out a small packet of rare tea leaves, then settles down to chat with Jedidah about religion (+6), history (+6), and if it comes up, surprisingly...

Well now that's right kind of you young lady. Haven't had Tien tea in ages, unless you count the time I had tea at that temple in the crazy Tien tapestry that was hangin' in the headquarters last year.

[[Jedidiah pours tea for two (though the tray has more cups), and sits across from Fasch. He is quite comfortable speaking of such things as religion (+7), the great beyond (planes +6), arcana (+5), and the underground (dungeoneering +5). He keeps up with other subjects as well such as the wilds (nature +2) and local events (+2). He seems to be quite the student of human nature (sense motive +16) and almost supernaturally perceptive (+21).]]

Oh I loved that tapestry! So many fun missions--so many secret carvings of different deities. I think it's still there, isn't it? I heard from a friend that Amara Li wants to figure out how to let it be a free teleport to wherever we want for the whole Society. Nice lady that Amara Li.

(OOC: In terms of studying human nature (+18) and perceptiveness (+27) he finds Fasch to be equally adept. She's very interested in the great beyond but most of her information about it are simple folk stories or misremembered snippets that wizards told her (no ranks).)

Fasch wrote:

I knew the Andorens were chaotic, but if those Andoren drinking buddies of yours are trying to convince you that Irori is a devil prince now just because he is lawful, they're just making fools of themselves. I assure you they are quite mistaken. I'd be happy to tutor you about the Masters of Masters as much as you like. I think you'll find he has more in common with Torag than some of those rabble-rousing deities Andorens worship like Milani.

Ms. Fasch, I'll have to ask you to extend some forgiveness to my brothers in arms for their harsh tone. Cheliax has garnered a certain, shall we say "negative", reputation due to its association with the forces of Hell. That reputation can make it difficult for even upstandin' individuals to extend common courtesy to a visitor to our hall, even Chelaxian citizen who is obviously a student of the Master of Masters, such as yourself.

I believe we have some tea 'round here somewhere. If you'll be so kind as to find yourself a comfortable chair, I'll put the kettle on. We can have a nice discussion about the gods and and other such things that might catch our fancy. I've got time for company, as it seems word from our Venture Captain might take a bit...

Ohmygosh I'd love some tea! I wouldn't want to be a drain on your resources though, since I'm not a faction member. Let me offer something in return--I'll get some of the rare tea I found in an abandoned Tien monastery in the mountains--there's not much left, as I shared what I didn't send Ms. Zarta with all the other Pathfinders so they could impress the Tien nobility when they needed, but it seems only right, as a fellow brother of your Silver Crusade is the one who helped me in the first place to pick out the best leaves of the bunch to take back!

*Fasch reaches into her pouch and takes out a small packet of rare tea leaves, then settles down to chat with Jedidah about religion (+6), history (+6), and if it comes up, surprisingly detailed accounts of experimental use of magic without training (+22).*

Imagine the loss of Ol' Zadrian, it'd be cripplin', she showed us how far an organization of good can change the world, if she was gone we would lose our beacon and if their was even a sliver of hope I know I could count on the same Chelish, Shadow lodge, Lantern's. They'd join me in helping recover our Light.

You could count on me to join in on an adventure to help Ollysta Zadrian. She seems like a nice lady from all my dealings with her--she even gave medicine to an orphanage in the first mission I ever had (the Andoran member of our team wanted to send the children onto the streets and "free" them to a life of neglect because the orphanage keeper drank alcohol though; then he started attacking the poor old lady unprovoked because she was ugly. When we asked him why, the Andoran barbarian really said "She's so ugly, she must be evil."). And besides, anything strong enough to threaten a paladin as awesome as Ollysta Zadrian would probably be a totally awesome adventure!

I like how the Chel is tryin' to sow dissension in the ranks. Won't work. Go back to worshippin' that devil prince o' yers. If Andoren spies upended yer missives, er mine fer that matter, all the better it was them, instead o' you.

The most hilarious part? The Chelish prolly aren't mad because missions and goals were subverted ... but because they weren't the ones to do it.

I knew the Andorens were chaotic, but if those Andoren drinking buddies of yours are trying to convince you that Irori is a devil prince now just because he is lawful, they're just making fools of themselves. I assure you they are quite mistaken. I'd be happy to tutor you about the Masters of Masters as much as you like. I think you'll find he has more in common with Torag than some of those rabble-rousing deities Andorens worship like Milani.

Fasch wrote:

I dunno Mr. Green Faith guy, I'm with Dexios on this one. I've seen with my own two eyes, and may Abadar's truth-telling fail to light upon me if it isn't just so, Andoren agents engaging in wanton murder, assassinations to glorify Maldris's political agenda, multiple acts of cannibalism (by the definition of eating sentient beings though not the same species), acts of blatant vandalism, unprovoked theft (one time stealing the merchant's license from a legitimate and accredited shop with no provocation), rousing angry hate mobs and causing riots in neutral and innocent cities like Sothis, and reckless abandoment of so-called "liberated slaves" to fates far worse than the slavery from which they "freed" them in name only.

I'm sure that every word of that is true. I'm equally sure that the entire thing is false. I've helped free some of those slaves...don't ask my why Andorrans don't get a set of lock-picks with the membership card.. they've been grateful to be released. Andorrans dislike slavery because they care about people, and people being chained up or kept in place is a strait-forward problem that's easy to fix.

I'm guessing you've never seen the underbelly of Andoran then. I've seen what the Lumber Consortium does to the people living in those little towns, not slaves only by a technicality that would make a devil grin ear to ear. They have to buy things from a company store and rent their homes from the company land, with the prices fixed in tandem with their wages. And they can never save enough money to pay to relocate. It's great for propaganda though, that they can say these people "technically" aren't slaves.

Oh, that was a weird mission...Venture Captain Brackett assured me that there would be no cannibalism, even though it was in Andoran. The two of us had a bet before the mission--if there was no cannibalism, I wouldn't talk about Andoren cannibalism again and if there was, he agreed to acknowledge it and warn the next few sets of Pathfinders about it. Turns out, there was plenty...

But I'm wandering about all willy nilly instead of sticking to the point--sorry!

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If Ms. Zarta gave me missions like those, I think I'd have to leave my faction. She talks a good game about being really sketchy, but she's something of a softy deep down--she often gives missions like "show that order has its place by helping your fellow Pathfinders succeed on their own missions" or "help your fellow Pathfinders get past the checkpoint you all need to sneak past by offering this gold I've enclosed to the inspector".

You're working towards spreading Cheliax, where a wealthy few own other people and have them beaten them if they don't work hard enough and then kill them if they try to leave. It doesn't matter how nice you're being about it, that's what you're trying to do.

I understand the good you can do with an orderly society where everyone works according to the common well being instead of everyone scrambling to take as much...

Mr. Green Faith guy, I'm sorry if I peg you wrong here, but have you ever lived your life in need? I was an orphan in a city that values freedom, and let me tell you something--it sucks to be free and alone. It's worse than being a slave--at least a slave has someone who automatically feeds, clothes, and cares about them. Anyway, I had to steal to survive, and Andoren sorts often sneered at me or made threats on my life. To them, I was free, so I wasn't worth their interest like a slave would be.

One day, a super-awesome archer from Cheliax caught me trying to lift a few coins. He was also an orphan, who had trained in archery at a monastery. He paid hundreds of gold of his own money to have me sent on a caravan and raised at his monastery. He had no other motive, he just did it. And in Cheliax, my drive to be better and stronger allowed me to succeed and thrive. Cheliax is a place for those who are willing to work super-hard to improve their lot in life. It isn't given to them automatically like the society you describe--that sounds like some kind of Bachuan communism to me, though you don't look Tien. You need drive and talent. And the people who don't have those are taken care of as well, not neglected and left behind. I've seen an Andoren Pathfinder free a bunch of slaves illegally and just leave them in the city where they were freed and were now fugitives who would be executed if caught, with no escape plan. Maybe there are some Andorens who are not like this, but most of them just seem to like the idea of making themselves feel fuzzy by claiming they're helping through flashy rhetoric and displays of freeing slaves more than the boring aftermath required to actually help those people.

(OOC: This character started as the random optional NPC of the same name in City of Strangers, and the party Cheliax character did annotate off 250 gp from his chronicle sheet to send her to a good home where she could train in archery)

Welcome lady of Cheliax, and thank you for your information. Are you here to join the Silver Crusade, or learn more about the worship of Sarenrae? I will be happy to assist you with either task. Or perhaps you are here for some other reason? You are correct that Pathfinders must work together - even if our means differ greatly.

*Fasch chuckles.*

Lady of Cheliax? Actually, I'm from Kaer Maga, though I do work for Ms. Zarta.

Anyway, just came to tell you about Andoran, friendly wings guy. I was the first one to alert everyone about this whole Andoran business yesterday.

But sure, I like stories about Sarenrae--particularly the time she caged up Rovagug when she was working together with Asmodeus. That seemed like an epic fight! Here's some other Sarenrae stories I know--

(OOC: Knowledge Religion 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (15) + 6 = 21)

Know any other good ones? Anyway, I wouldn't want to overstay my welcome. It seems some people here like Mr. Green Faith guy aren't big fans of my faction.

Jedidah Kilgrave wrote:

Fasch wrote:

The good folks from Cheliax have been looking into the matter, and the Decemvirate themselves have issued an apology for allowing the Andoren spies to attempt to subvert not only the Silver Crusade missive but also those of most other factions as well (except Taldor apparently has good enough spies to prevent this). Fortunately, you guys in the Silver Crusade are too smart to fall for this Andoren scheme!

Thank you kindly for the information. But please don't be offended if I wait for confirmation from our Venture Captain. Chain of command. I'm sure you understand.

Ayye, I be agreein' with Kilgrave over here, 'til it comes from Ol' Zadrian herself, I'll be a bit wary around my Andoran compatriots.

I'll give ya benefit of the doubt, Fasch, and trust ya aren't a secret Andoran spy planted in Cheliax, but all this distrust has me beard a shakin'. Simpler times when we all worked together for the dear ol' Society.

I don't mind that at all, Mr. Dwarf Guy. Considering the other stuff Andoran has done, that's a reasonable concern

(OOC: Fasch appears to be a waifish Varisian-ish girl in her tweens, so she's probably older than she looks if she passed the tests to become a Pathfinder)

Nice try, but we're not turning on each other as long as we're united against you.

I dunno Mr. Green Faith guy, I'm with Dexios on this one. I've seen with my own two eyes, and may Abadar's truth-telling fail to light upon me if it isn't just so, Andoren agents engaging in wanton murder, assassinations to glorify Maldris's political agenda, multiple acts of cannibalism (by the definition of eating sentient beings though not the same species), acts of blatant vandalism, unprovoked theft (one time stealing the merchant's license from a legitimate and accredited shop with no provocation), rousing angry hate mobs and causing riots in neutral and innocent cities like Sothis, and reckless abandoment of so-called "liberated slaves" to fates far worse than the slavery from which they "freed" them in name only.

If Ms. Zarta gave me missions like those, I think I'd have to leave my faction. She talks a good game about being really sketchy, but she's something of a softy deep down--she often gives missions like "show that order has its place by helping your fellow Pathfinders succeed on their own missions" or "help your fellow Pathfinders get past the checkpoint you all need to sneak past by offering this gold I've enclosed to the inspector".

Did not the Lady stand with the Prince of Lies himself to bind the god Rovaraug?

Absolutely! Sarenrae is awesome! She's strong and powerful and she knows how to work together and get the job done when something like Rovagug is the problem. I know some people from Andoran who want to free the Rough Beast because they think any form of slavery is an abomination! Is that not crazy? Having the power to affect your goals and beliefs is pretty important. Sarenrae kicks butt, and so do her followers. I'll fight alongside a Sarenrite paladin any day. Shizuru too. I mean, Irori is really my favorite anyway, not Asmodeus.

Hmm, interestin' to see my concerns are shared by others. I wonder if our esteemed Venture Captain would be so kind as to address this matter and put it to rest. Unless, of course, the old saying about "silence speaking volumes" applies here.

The good folks from Cheliax have been looking into the matter, and the Decemvirate themselves have issued an apology for allowing the Andoren spies to attempt to subvert not only the Silver Crusade missive but also those of most other factions as well (except Taldor apparently has good enough spies to prevent this). Fortunately, you guys in the Silver Crusade are too smart to fall for this Andoren scheme!

Fasch wrote:

Fellow skeptics of Andoran,

I call for your vigilance, as Andoran seems to have infiltrated the courier service and is now appending to the end of all faction missives sent to our personal address an exhortation to listen to that pompous windbag Colson Maldris and represent Andoran in the coming days. I can confirm that this happened to me, as well as two of my associates in the Grand Lodge and the Lantern Lodge. We must stay every vigilant for such brazen Andoren trickery, however foolish and obvious it may be!

Better the freedom fighters o' Andoran then the schemin', selfish, oppressive, devil worshippin' monsters o' Cheliax, says I.

Cheliax, selfish? I've seen far more selfishness from Andoran. For example, I've seen Cheliax members, as our official business, helping those in need in the other factions to complete your missions, including Silver Crusade. I usually get along real well with Silver Cruaders. Andoran is a different story. Andoran recently received a very similar chance, but as far as I saw, Andoran faction members pointed out that "technically we only need to spy on the goals of the other factions, we don't have to actually help them" and then they didn't.

This so called "breach" has been fully investigated. Nothing to see here. Off to your next mission. I believe Bonekeep is calling to you.....

Bonekeep? Awesome! The name alone makes it sound almost as fun as one of those Osprey missions! Those are always great. Don't think I've seen any Venture Captains willing to send me to this "Bonekeep" in my region though.

Oh yeah, and I heard from my buddy Agravaine that Andoran has continued its infiltration and is now sabotaging Qadiran missives as well!

Fellow skeptics of Andoran,

I call for your vigilance, as Andoran seems to have infiltrated the courier service and is now appending to the end of all faction missives sent to our personal address an exhortation to listen to that pompous windbag Colson Maldris and represent Andoran in the coming days. I can confirm that this happened to me, as well as two of my associates in the Grand Lodge and the Lantern Lodge. We must stay every vigilant for such brazen Andoren trickery, however foolish and obvious it may be!

Adam Mogyorodi wrote:

I think you're missing the point. If I can spend 50 gp and flat-out kill an opponent at level 8, that's fine, I'll do that! Please deduct 200 gp from my account, and I'll kill four important enemies. Deduct 1000 gp from the group collectively, and we'll just collect our prizes.

Double-barrelled pistols are broken, and double Dex just exacerbates the issue.

Yeah because level eight wizards don't devastate encounters with one spell that is free.

@umd guy I guess you take dangerously curious? Dc20 is pretty hard IMO, especially if you fail you lose a charge. At level eight you only have a plus nine, making that a 45% chance to use that wand. Seems pretty bad? After that your first action can only be one shot as well

Wow, archers must be much better than gunslingers at using magic then. I had +17 at level 8 with 8 Charisma, and now I have +22 at level 10. Yay!

Hi there! I'm Fasch. I venerate Irori but also Asmodeus and other gods that teach us how to be as powerful as we can possibly be. If we want to make a mark on the world, for good or for evil, we need power.

You would do just great with Cheliax, which will provide you with all you need to increase your power. True, the vanities aren't great unless you wear heavy armor...well, who am I kidding. Our vanities are the worst of any faction if you don't wear heavy armor. But there should only be one or two missions you'll have to refuse, as long as bringing body parts like hearts from evil foes to teach them the lesson of their wrongdoing floats your boat. The only one I can think of that you definitely wouldn't do is send souls to Asmodeus, and that only happened once.

Also be aware that Ms. Zarta might make lots of squicky advances at you, regardles of your age, gender, or opinion on the matter. I think she's just playing, though, so you should be fine even if you don't want to join her in bed.

*Fasch hands you back your valuables.*

You should really take better care of those, you know? Practice your perception up so you don't get ambushed by monsters!

Poor Miss Zarta! Don't listen to the people saying mean things. I can't believe someone would do something like this to you. I'll do my best to help!

*A small girl, seemingly young beyond the Pathfinders' recruitment age, in a simple commoner's outfit with a surprisingly high-quality bow strapped to her back walks in as she hears the nagaji's pronouncement.*

"Mr. Snake guy, that's not how it works," she explains in a childlike manner. "Ms. Zarta just wants us all to be able to grow and become more powerful. The devils serve those who are powerful enough to prove themselves. If you want to get really strong and improve yourself, this is a great place to work. That's how I got to be better and better with the bow. And now I can beat lots of bad guys, like Aspis Silver Agents," she flashes a Silver Aspis Pin at that and grins, "Or pretty bird-sphinxes or that snake sorcerer girl. You would have been cute together...oh except she was a mummy, so probably not.

Biggest disease vector in the Inner Sea Region.

Especially with all those Chelish adventurers getting back from far off environments coming and going. [/andorendude]

*A small girl, seemingly young beyond the Pathfinders' recruitment age, in a simple commoner's outfit with a surprisingly high-quality bow strapped to her back glances back and forth among the gathered personages before replying to one of the comments.*

"Miss Zarta makes it seem like she's utterly distracted by her liaisons to fool other people like those cannibals from Andoran into underestimating her. It's not like she ever carries through with me on those weird things she sends in the letters..."