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Crust, if you're referring "Dragotha? Here's your ass, allow me to hand it to you." by UltimaGabe, I did read that.

In fact that thread is why I created this thread; to see what specifically I should worry about for the party, without hijacking UltimaGabe's thread.

That said, your input was still appreciated. In fact, all this input is appreciated. What I am starting to worry about though is a TPK.

If I wanted a TPK, I'd just give him the paragon template or something and laugh while the party died.

What I was thinking was:

I can create a sample encounter incorporating most of the above suggestions, as well as what I predict the party will end up being, then run it to see how it goes.

Using those results I will adjust accordingly, then continue to update the sample party as the actual party advances in level, so as to get it closer and closer to accurate.

Now that I've got these suggestions to work off of, with enough testing, this should go fine.


Arcane Strike slipped my mind. That will most assuredly help.

Astral projection I will look into: seems a bit more advanced but by the time the party wizard can cast it I will know it backwards and forwards, as well as 6 ways to exploit it (which I may or may not use).

I could probably add MDJ and/or time stop as well.

Hmmm...actually... treating him as an unusually resilient high level sorceror with extra abilities might work as opposed to thinking dragon with spells.

Anywho, input appreciated.


Here's the dilly-o. I like planning in advance. I intend to be running the AoW for my players.

The party compostiton will run something like: wizard/archmage, favored soul, warblade and artificer all using rolled stats.

Now, I know it will be months, but I enjoy stat blocks in addition to planning.

Given the above party composition, the fact that I allow any book they or I own, the fact that I am a fiendish powergamer who will freely offer general advice, and the horror stories about 1 round nukes of good ol' Dragotha:

If I advance him to great wyrm, is he tough enough?

If not, suggestions?