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Would it be safe to assume then that the Creatures from the older game systems are weaker in comparison? If so i think it might be fun to use them in increased number and giving a shade less XP for them. Thats similar to the minions system in dnd 4e.

The only annoying thing about them is you 1 shot them no matter what you do as long as you can score a hit. Its hard to keep people form meta gaming when they fight 30 things they one shot lol.


MisterSlanky wrote:
Faladarian wrote:
I guess my ultimate question would be... Would 5 CR1 Monsters from 3.0/3.5 equal out to the same as 5 CR 1 monsters in the PF Bestiary?

Unfortunately, no. One of the major changes was updates/upgrades to the CR system to help make it fit better. For example, a level 2 PC would be CR 2, while a level 2 NPC is now only CR 1. There are other significant adjustments to some of the other creatures in the bestiary.

As I said, they're all compatible, but in that particular case, not 100%.

Does this mean that the CR of a creature is now comparable to 1 PC of that lvl?

Such as: A normal encounter for 1 lvl1 Fighter would be 1 CR1. -or- 3 lvl1 PCs would be 3 CR1s or a CR3 ( Or any combination that adds up to X where X is the combined party lvl.)


Yeah thats what I was hoping for.

Basically, I only plan using the WoW RPG for the detailed crafting mechanics and maybe the thing they added that lets you govern a town like in a RTS.

From the Diablo II material i planned on utilizing the extensive random treasure and container contents tables as well as the bestiary in the back.

I also have a bestiary called "Manual of Monsters" for the Warcraft RPG.

Basically I'm hoping to be "Cheap" for awhile and not have to buy the bestiary for PF lol. If I can use some of my older material to provide basic monsters and provide templates to create my own for more exciting encounters (which would include the new rules for CMB and CMD and the like.)

I guess my ultimate question would be... Would 5 CR1 Monsters from 3.0/3.5 equal out to the same as 5 CR 1 monsters in the PF Bestiary?

P.S. Thanx so much for all the help. again : )


Thank you so much! Anyway you could clue me in on the key differences you were talking about? Ive spent over the last year playing DnD 4e so I have to learn 3.5 all over again.


Hello everyone. Just got into Pathfinder today and was wondering how much compatibility with other OGL or DnD 3.0 and up products it has.

Im speaking more specifically about the World of Warcraft RPG written under OGL by Sword and Sorcery and Diablo II "Diablerie" and "To Hell and Back" written for Dungeons and Dragons 3.0

Thanx all ahead of time for the help.