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We're all level 11 right now, our GM has just been using the middle track guide in RotR and leveling us up as it tells him to in the AP.

I'm a straight cleric with a focus on healing, healing and good domains. Extra lay on hands, etc.

We have our spellslinger, which I honestly know jack about.

We have an archaeologist archetype bard.

And then our half-orc trip/crit warrior beast.

I think I'm going to be switching to a druid when we come back from our break, and I took leadership with a level 9 hedge witch cohort that will be my healer :P


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Gilarius: I have to admit that I know so little about gun/spellslingers to know exactly how he did it. This is actually the first campaign I've ever played that has had guns in it.

Latrecis and Ckorik: Those are some excellent ideas, and I'll get some one on one time with my GM and help him out. One thing about our GM is that he is legally blind, he can see, but he can't read very well, or for very long. So he usually goes by the rules that he knows, which is one of the reasons I've been helping him. I'm constantly looking things up throughout the game nights and letting him know that everything the players are doing is legit.

Thanks you guys for some great advice. We actually just hit the end of Hook Mountain Massacre and are taking a break for a few months while our GM is going out of town for a few weeks and one of our other players has national guard, so maybe we can use this time to work some things out.


I would chalk a lot of it up to the fact that this is our GM's first time running. He didn't really look into things too heavily, and more or less let us play what we wanted without restricting us much.

However, this has turned into more of a discussion of what went wrong, and I was searching for advice about how to help him as a new GM. How does someone new to GMing learn to adjust the module for specific builds? What are adjustments he can make without being too punishing, or to make his players feel like they are being targeted?

He told me that in the Barl fight he didn't have him fly because he didn't want half the people in the group to get bored because they couldn't do anything to him. With the fight with Erylium earlier in the campaign, the group got very frustrated because they couldn't do enough damage to her while she was flying above their heads to counter her fast healing. I thought that was more of a lack of insight, or thinking outside the box for the group, but that was just me. (I wasn't playing at that time, just heard about it later)


Adding more mooks is basically the idea I had. But when our fighter can down a stone giant in one round (102 hp), those mooks get dangerous for everyone else in the party, but the fighter.

As for Barl's encounter, we managed to surprise him, our bard dimension doored himself and the fighter right to his platform from the entrance. I think we may need to be a bit more strict on sight rules, technically our bard was running around blind, since he was a human, and there's no way he could have seen his way up the steps to Barl's platform.


So I'm playing in a campaign for RotR that my friend is running, he's a new GM and I've been trying to help him. One thing we've ran into is our uber fighter, and I'm not 100% sure what to do.

Our fighter is running trip feats, and a keen falchion, with the feat that lets him trip on a crit. He did over 100 damage to Barl in one round, and that was without a trip. As far as I can tell, everything the fighter is doing is totally legit, but it's just nuts. The main boss for the whole adventure, nearly being one shotted, that just seems a bit crazy to me.

And thats not even including our spellslinger who did 146 damage to Lamatar, one shotting him with a named bullet and only needing to roll a 1 to hit because of touch ac.

My friend who is GMing is getting frustrated because he's not sure how to handle this, and now he wants to take a break for a bit. (which will likely end up being the end)

I have to admit that my own GM experience is limited enough that I'm not sure how to help him. So here I am asking for some advice. How do you deal with something like this?