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Have you talked to him and asked him? If he isn't interested in talking to you about this then he isn't doing his job. And if he is out to get you then I think that he needs a reality check on what pathfinder is about. It isn't DM vs PC. It's a group of friends making a story together. So I guess the real question is, do you enjoy the extra challenge that he is giving you? If not you should alert him to this fact.
Kinda funny, started a thread earlier this month and someone said something very similar.
http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s1vz?Alignment-help
I will try to make it work with the Oracle, I'm not giving up yet, I was just asking for advice. Thank you everyone for your help. Everyone here on this message boards is so nice. I'll be back soon I'm sure!
-Enterler
This is fine and all, but I wasn't for killing the babies, just the mothers that were attacking us earlier. As to whether or not, I would kill a fleeing human mother...
Well... If she abused and raised her children in cages I think I might be tempted.
Dread Knight wrote: You can see them as little more than pests but that doesn't mean that they are. Goblins are sentient creatures and as such can vary just as much as a human. Sorry, when I said "I" I was speaking in character, not as a person. The thing is that you're answer doesn't really tell me what I wan't to know. I wasn't asking for views on what goblins are. I was asking if even if I am blinded by my hate of goblins, am I within the context of being good?

So, in this campaign I've been playing as a player in recently, I am playing a rather stereotypical Lawful good Dwarf Cleric who worships Torag. I just have a bit of trouble getting along with my companions and role-playing.
My party includes a NG Sorcerer and Paladin, which both typically don't voice their word unless things begin to get out of hand. There is a ranger who knows that he doesn't know enough about his surroundings to argue with anyone.
The problem is the the last two members of the party who are a rogue and an oracle. They both recently changed their alignments to CN but they've been playing like their that alignment this whole time so its not that big of a deal. The oracle is the one that bothers me on his own.
I don't know the guy in real life very well, so i didn't really have a feel for what kind of guy he was before he joined us last session, but its clear to me now that our personalities are not compatible. He likes to contradict me in most decisions I make, and the GM will not help. I don't blame the GM though, he is new to gming so he is still very caught up in the mechanical side of the game, and he isn't solving problems in the group unless its a rule argument.
I'm home schooled, and am not terribly proficient in dealing with this kind of issue, so any help possible would be helpful on that front.
My second problem is with my role-playing. I am lawful good, and yet my characters oldest brother and twin brother were murdered by Gobliniods in the goblin bloodwar, and my character still holds onto that and hates goblinoids. So, when the a goblin harem attacked us I killed two of the women and the other two began screaming about the babies and trying to rush by us to the nursery. I felt like that was out of character for the goblin women because because of the way they raise their young in cages and I continued my attack...
My GM called my a sociopath and turned the other players against me. Interestingly enough, the oracle was the only one who sided with me in the end, but I digress. Was I outside of my alignment? Personally, I see goblins as little more than pests. Should I be sorry for killing a mother rat going home to her children? If she abuses and ignores them?

chaoseffect wrote: Concerning evil PCs, if you and the other players don't like how things turned out with them getting betrayed, I'd ask the player to limit his evil to NPCs. Maybe have a "I'd kill just about anyone for their boots, except for you guys because you're pretty cool" attitude concerning the party. If everyone had fun regardless or really enjoyed that part of the game, then ignore me :p
Anyway I don't know anything about the adventure you mentioned specifically so I can't give ya specifics. I know that in a lot of games I've played the old fall back on introducing a PC in the middle of a dungeon is "You find this guy chained to a wall, obviously a captive but he looks like he could be good in a fight." Anyway, as you are new to DMing I would do what you're thinking and try checking out an AP. Try taking a look on the Paizo store, not just for their stuff but third party adventures as well; some are costly but many smaller ones are really inexpensive. They could give you some ideas or you could just run them straight.
Also check out pfsrd. It has pretty much all of the Paizo book options as well as quite a few third party stuff; it's a great resource, especially if you don't have the core books.
Thank you for all of the quick replies, and a lot of them have been very useful! My plan for the campaign that they are currently playing in is to give them enough random adventures for them to reach level five(the max level of the beginner box) then run the Ravens Watch adventure as their final adventure and have them finally kill Black Fang.
I do like having the fall back of bringing the elf rogue back as an evil NPC, but would prefer to save that for later adventures. The other PCs weren't very upset with his betrayal because he had been a jerk to the barbarian, the only thing they were sad about was missing the chance to kill him.
I do like some of the adventures by Fireman Tim, so I might end up using one. Thanks!
Regards,
Enterler

Hi, I'm new to Pathfinders, and decided to buy the Beginner Box and run it with three of my cousins. It went great, and we had a blast doing Black Fangs Dungeon, but I'm not entirely sure where to go from here.
First off, in character creation, I let one of my PCs chose to have an evil alignment since I do know a little about DnD 3.5, and doing this resulted in a few rather amazing encounters. In the end, this evil elf rogue made a deal with King Fatmouth to fight and kill the other two PCs while the elf ran. He got away, and even after fighting Black Fang, my PCs, a human barbarian and dwarf wizard, were still able to kill Fatmouth and all of his goblins. The elf got away and I am thinking of bringing him back in future sessions, but for now I just need what to do after that adventure.
The PCs still have not left Black Fang's cave, so anything at all that could be used after that would be appreciated. Also, two of my cousins are younger, so try to keep the adventures clean. One last thing, I need to bring the PC that was playing the elf back as a different character, and he has decided on a cleric of Erastil, and I'm not sure how the party should meet him.
If the beginner box goes well, I would like to buy the core rule book and Rise of the Runelords, so I would like to keep any adventure in the Sandpoint area. Thanks!
Regards,
Enterler
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