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SlimGauge wrote:

What is the source of the difference between the un-doubled morale bonus and the doubled morale bonus ? What would be the source of the difference between the doubled morale bonus and the trebled (or quadrupled, but that's not how Pathfinder doubles things) morale bonus if your scheme worked ?

Just as you can't get the benefit of Bull's Strength twice, you can't get the benefits of Moment of Greatness twice on the same roll.

This makes sense however this isn't simply "like bonuses" like bull's strength's enhancement bonus this is a morale bonus being multiplied by a factor so I can imagine there being a theoretical way to circumvent this. Perhaps metamagic? though it seems unlikely.


Princess Animal Parts wrote:
Kazejin wrote:

Considering Paizo's editing habits, I'd say that the intent was for all the normal rules of dex to apply, just to cha instead. Meaning maximum dex bonus of your armor still applies. Could use a clarification, though.

Flavor-wise, the reason why it still applies is because you're not actually using your "force of personality" to deflect the attacks. (The attack doesn't miss just because you willed it to). The idea is that you're using cha because you're so in tune to your surroundings, that you can feel the right time to dodge an attack, as opposed to simply reacting to it. That feeling does not, however, allow you to ignore the restrictions of your armor. Your body doesn't become less restricted just because you have a sixth sense about incoming attacks.

That's my interpretation, at least.

In response to the sixth sense comment I would have to comment the opposite might also be true from another perspective. Sure you may not be able to react as fast as having the dexterity but you are Extraordinarily aware of all movements your Opponent is making or is about to make. This makes me Believe you have more time to react and simply are not reacting faster. "more time to put that shield in the way versus putting that shield in the way faster"

Also keep in Mind adrenaline based effects like sudden massive bursts of strength or agility due to fight or flight instincts.. This concept has caused terrified housewives to lift cars off their infantile children (as farfetched as it sounds it's happened)