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Smitter - I've already stated that i'm ok with your ruling, i just wanted more information on the topic myself. And u made it VERY clear that it wasn't a permanent alignment change, so i am not contesting it. I just wanted the forum to have a clear picture of what was going on from my perspective as well. And i have an idea of what the 3rd reason may be, but i'm not gonna stick my foot in my mouth..lol :)

Also, i enjoy reading this forum as i am not quite ready to start running my own campaign, but this is a good way to get insight on how to rule on moral challenges such as the one in our game.


Niels wrote:

In true fantasy using the foces of evil to do good is Always wrong and almost always ends up destroying the charecter in question, two eksamples are:

Starwars: Anakin using the dark side (to do somthing he thinks is good) turns him into Darth vader.

Lord of the rings: using the ring even to do good corupts the one using it(gandalf points this our to frodo in the first book)

there are tons of other eksamples, and it is a clasic story line.

anyway using the scroll is like using "the one ring" no matter how clever you think you are it will always come back to bite you, and so using it is an evil act more so now that you know it is dangerus.

I didn't use Evil for Good. I used Evil out of necessity. I also fully intend to release (and possibly kill the Glabrezu as it is one of my favored enemies) at the next session. I just don't see how i can change alignment for just holding on to the contract (as the DM implied to me). The Glabrezu is in a cave where not many can go (high above a waterfall) and was told to stay there by my order (as to not harm anyone). I would personally say that the intent is the important thing here.

But in all fairness, i did say to the DM that I would accept the alignment change so that the game could continue. Next thing i know he sends me a link to this post.


Ok, allow me to straighten a few things out. I am playing the C-G ranger in question. Please allow me to enlighten you on the situation as it really happened....

Firstly, no one in the party actually said that the Rogue should keep the contract as his own...it's just that no one else wanted it.

Next, the rogue is the character that didn't word the direction to the Glabrezu correctly that got the villagers killed. My character only noticed a hand sticking out of a sack that the Glabrezu was carrying. Also, let me point out that this was the 4th session in said dungeon, and my character was not in the original group that entered the dungeon. Not to mention that the DM doesn't re-cap all that much. So, once he informed us that all the villagers were dead, i remembered that they were the reason that were in said dungeon.

Next, The party was getting owned, and after the rogue got dominated we were in big trouble. Once the monster that dominated the Rogue was killed, my character grabbed the contract because no other character was able to do so at the time (and no one else wanted it once again). After the fight was over, my character asked the Glabrezu to help us out of the dungeon that we were in. At which time the Glabrezu tried to kill us all by taking a Month to get out of the dungeon (not uncommon for a Glabrezu).

Next, The DM asked what my character was going to do with the contract, and i replied i'm going to study what the monster is and then probably release it back to it's home plane.

Lastly, the DM then decided that the session was over and began handing out EXP and that is the point in which he informed me that my character was changing alignment.

My only problem was that i didn't understand what my character had done to have to change alignments. I will say that YES there were clues, but only very subtle clues that made sense in hindsight. If I am completely out-of-line than I am sorry. Maybe i need a better understanding of how alignment works.

So, i guess my question is...What did my character do to deserve an alignment change?