Maezer wrote:
The crits stopped the mahem, the companion had been so far below in negative points when the first one score I just made hem all score. It ended a very brutal setup. As for the group, the rog is the only char built to do a "job" the rest tweak their chars for max damage, screw the RP in their minds. They have regularly encountered higher CR groups and been victorious. Though to be honest the hellhounds give then no grief compared to Ankhegs. The player with the rog actually side linned his Barbarianto use the Rog for this adventure. He normally does the damage to mobs. But o ver the course of a few adventures he got suick og how the druid and ranger would use the companion to find traps etc. so I allowed him to create the rog to roll in to the party. The reaon the hellhounds went after the leopard was because of an insult the made on a Wizard when they looted his prize pet then killed it. So he arrainged to send them a message.
On both accounts they laughed about it AS their characters, I even asked is this you out of character or in character. They even said well no use knocking the mob off it, it would just attack us. So from my GM aspect an animal companion is a special gift, not a slave or pet. They are awarded by their affinity to nature etc, the same thing that grants them the ability to cast spells. Now yes Nature can be in multiple forms, the Druid could be a fire aspet and support the burning of forests etc to allow the world to renew, got that. But at the end of the day, the core concept of Ranger and Druids from their inception was the protection of Nature's balance and even in nature there is no true cruelty as in their actions. Sure animals kill to eat but, only in the most rare cases is it done as a cruel action. By reading through the Pathfinder rules and going back to my notes when I play tested the druid and rangers for AD&D, the act is wrong for that class. They even joked yep 24hrs in the woods you get a new one and we can do it again. So from my standpoint yes they were out of line.
Ok some my lvl 4 Ranger and his lvl 3 Druid buddy try and test the limits of my patience at times but here is their latest fiasco: 5 Hellhounds jump the party to attack the Ranger's Animal a Leopard. Party is 4 Chars - Rog (device spec'ed ie find/disable) - Chaotic Neutral
The Hellhounds attack players that are in the path to the leopard until they can get to the leopard. Once the characters relaized this all but the Rog stopped attacking the Hellhounds until they were on the Leopard then had the cleric healing the leopaqrd as they tried to kill the hellhounds. Needless to say the leopard would get to 1 pt from perm death when they would pop a heal and it would still be sub 0 and getting chewed on. The Druid and Ranger even commented how cool it was to use the Leopard as a tank as they weren't getting hit. Meanwhile Mr. Pussy Cat is being tortured killed then healed etc. All along these two rocket scietists keep saying "I didn't do that its not what my Character would do..." and I explained over and over and even made them read what their classes were about... So here is where I am at: Ranger for using his animal companion in a cruel way is no longer capable of pulling an animal companion until he is atoned. This requires a casting of Atonement (and proper tithes for it) as well as a quest to redeem himself. The druid who claims he isn't for Nature but the aspect of fire is getting hit the same way. They also have lost all supernatural empowered abilities until they get the atonement done. ie no spells or abilities. Also the Ranger will no longer be able to take on an animal companion of the same type (no more big cats). The cleric was trying his best to keep the leopard alive but it the end all 3 Hellounds left alive crited and shreded the cat. ( Ok I got tired of them using it and laughing about it) The Rog has already filed it that he will kill each of them in their sleep for cruelty to animals (more drama for me to handle) Here is where I am at, I've DM'ed and GM'ed since the 70's - but Pathfinder is new - am I treating this incorrectly? I am sure the druid and the ranger have also both shifted towards evil in their wanton use of the companion as a target. Open to suggestions...
Ok, cool on both issues. My players HATE Ankhegs, true player killers. They seem to be a plague in my world (they make an apperance on almost every overland trip the players make) and have collected a lot of chitin from them. I charged him double fot the armor as the area was not populas and I tend to wipe out player gear a lot so if it becomes an issue, Ill have them meet something that will eat it.
Ok one of my players (the one always trying to pull one over on the GM) rolled up a druid. Here are my questins: The druid bought heavy prof. then bought full plate dragonhide. Can druids go heavy and they only get penalty if metal correct. Next, he is fire domain and thinks he can cast fireball when he hits lvl 5 becauseit says he can cast any spell in fire domain. However fireball is Arcane not Divine.
Mort the Cleverly Named wrote:
That works. So as long as they are the same type they don't stack. Enchantments the higher wins. Works and saves me from having to slap players back into order. Thank you everyone.
So if its a STR enchantment from an item and then a spell is cast or potion drunk that also grants a STR boon, they do not stack only the stronger of the two? Where is it in the Core book, my players are warring over it. I currently do the following: Belt is +2, the spell is +4 on top of other boons but, if he wears another iteeeeem it cancels and the highest boon item wins. |
