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FIRE Storm as writen: When a fire storm spell is cast, the whole area is shot through with sheets of roaring flame. The raging flames do not harm natural vegetation, ground cover, or any plant creatures in the area that you wish to exclude from damage. Any other creature within the area takes 1d6 points of fire damage per caster level (maximum 20d6). Creatures that fail their Reflex save catch on fire, taking 4d6 points of fire damage each round until the flames are extinguished. Extinguishing the flames is a full-round action that requires a DC 20 Reflex save.

The DC for firestorm is DC 23, but saves for extinguishing are DC 20. burning magic uses DC 23 to extinguish, and Fire storm DC 20 to extinguish


Fire storm does 4d6(averge 14)save DC 20 to put himself out and oracle ability does 7HP damage save to put out DC 23. you'd rule monster takes 14 HP and saves at what DC?


If an oracle of the flame with the burning magic revelation casts the spell Fire storm does the two catching on fire effects stack? Do catching on fire effects in general stack, as it seems being on fire isn't a condition? if they do stack, any suggestions on house rules to simplify all the various burning going on as several fire elementals may also be caste, which also have burn ability.