| Darkblitz9 |
Hello! I'm having some trouble understanding the wording of Kraken style and I couldn't find any threads discussing it so I though I'd make my own.
Kraken Style:
When you succeed at a grapple check while using this style, your opponent takes an amount of bludgeoning damage equal to your Wisdom modifier in addition to any damage your grapple deals, such as when you choose to harm your opponent as part of a successful check to maintain a grapple. In addition, you gain a +2 bonus on combat maneuver checks to maintain a grapple.
And Strangler archetype for Brawler's Strangle ability:
At 1st level, a strangler deals +1d6 sneak attack damage whenever she succeeds at a grapple check to damage or pin an opponent. The strangler is always considered flanking her target for the purpose of using this ability. This damage increases by +1d6 at 2nd, 8th and 15th levels.
Based on the wording of Kraken style I'm taking this to mean that anytime I succeed a grapple I deal damage equal to my wisdom modifier.
Another player and I discussed the wording on it though, and it seems it can also be taken to mean: Deal damage as if you had succeeded to maintain, as well as adding the wisdom modifier, when you succeed a grapple check.
This would mean that the damage from succeeding to maintain and choosing to damage, as well as the sneak damage would be added to the successful grapple check even if it's only to initiate the grapple.
This is based on how the feat mentions dealing the wisdom damage in addition to the damage you would deal on a grapple.
Unless the first statement should be: When you succeed a grapple check to maintain/deal damage/etc. rather than just: When you succeed a grapple check.
Sorry if I'm not very clear, the wording is a bit confusing to me and it's hard to describe exactly what I'm getting at.