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Oh, interesting! Looks like the main ambiguity now is how Monk levels allow you to attack with any body part, but Spell Combat explicitly talks about using your "other hand".

Also, thanks for the reference! (seems obvious in retrospect, total mental lapse on my part, lol)


Saleem Halabi – for sure, I'm just observing that Natural Spell Combat says you can use one additional natural attack, but it doesn't explicitly let you use your spellcasting hand to make them, so claws are still fairly useless without monk levels.

*edit – if anyone has it, I'd love a hard reference to where it is mentioned that you can't punch with the same hand as a claw attack; I know I've always heard that ruling, but I can't seem to find where it comes from.


Yea, the issue around which aspects of the rules are overridden by which gets a bit muddy. The rules on natural attacks override the default limits on iterative weapon attacks, but spell combat seems to have been written as if natural attacks were not considered.

Unless you're going with unarmed strikes, I don't see how either of them allows you to attack with a claw weapon and an iterative attack using that same hand, regardless of whether you have natural spell combat. And either way, I don't see how natural spell combat lifts the restriction on using your "spell hand" for a claw attack. I'd love to be proved wrong tho, the build sounds really fun.


I'm actually building a Catfolk Magus right now, looking at using Claw Pounce + Flash Forward to "charge cycle", using spell combat to cast Flash Forward as part of the Full Attack granted by my claw charge, within the full attack granted by my claw charge, within…

Depends on Jacobs' ruling about "full attack is a full attack is a full attack" (specifically the note that both spell combat and charge modify what you can do as part of a full attack) and my gm's love of munchkins, but I am 100% sympathetic to readings that it's total bork. =^ω^=

…also I would be 0% surprised for her to rule that I ripped a hole in space-time

*edit – the gm has also mentioned that this is going to be (was?) a time travel campaign, so… maybe i found the party's way home? haha